Courtney used the classical opposing forces of freedom vs control that mold our world and perhaps our galaxy, to design and run this RV experiment.

I was surprised by the negative similarities (fear, violence, other ugliness) that exist between our world and the two alien lands described by Farsight.

The 3-tier world of the controller subject could be earth in the middle ages, between 1900s-70s, or even today if we look at the economic disparities that divide our world.

Also, all three rvers described the freedom lover’s world as being assaulted from the air, and destroyed by a technologically superior invading force. Sounds very much like life on earth today and in the past.

As a result, the fear and trauma caused by the invaders pushed the freedom loving group into hiding and being sickly suspicious of everyone. A traumatic behavior displayed throughout our world today by several indigenous populations and war refugees.

In a nutshell, this rv work about our life in our plausible planets of origins shows that life conditions in those lands are fairly identical to life in earth prison planet.

And while this may sound a little bit depressing, we take consolation in saying that there is always hope!

And as always, the three rvers were great. This is shown by how they mutually corroborated and complemented their individual work in this blind study.

Yes, Farsight viewers are indeed the best of the best viewers out there.

I think after debating the death traps and the prison planet for almost 4 weeks, most forum members were probably looking and hoping for a little bit of good news with the Farsight Feb rv project.

Some good news would have been to find that life is/was better and safer in the “beautiful planets” where we lived before our incarnation here on earth.

But we did not get that in the current rv study, perhaps some good news will be coming in future studies.

The big question now is to figure out where we will be going after we successfully exit the prison planet.

Well, that’s a decision that each one of us has to make. For me the best option remains to reunite with our One Infinite Creator and go from there.

Now, I am wondering how helpful and practical would it have been for Courtney to use more than 2 possibilities based on various factors (ex. percentage of freedom of expression in various planets: 0%, 25%, 50% 75% and 100%)?

I’m not a viewer but I think that it would have been more challenging, more complex and more expensive to run this rv study with say, 5 possibilities. Then, are 5 possibilities good enough when you have to randomize a sample from a population of some 7.6 billion people? Not sure.

Let's remember that we are all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-encompassing Immortal Beings, and no matter what happens to us, at the end of the day we’re going to be fine.

Hi Jean-Claude. Be patient. It took us years to be able to do these studies. More is coming. Much more. We would not be doing this if there was no hope. It is just that the job is bigger than anyone ever imagined previously. The first step is to expose the problem for what it is. That is what we are doing first.

With no memory of why we are even in existence it does make it hard to try to figure out what we are supposed to do with our lives. It kind of blows up the idea that we even have a path or a reason to be alive because we can’t remember it.

I think this answers the question of why there are so many people on antidepressants. Many people feel that they have no purpose. I sure got to a point in my life where I couldn’t imagine wanting to stick around but maybe this “is” our path. This time we figure it out before we drop these bodies.

I enjoyed the video and as always I deeply respect the immense amount of training, hard work and dedication that goes into each and every project from inception through to production.

I just felt that the title of the 'where we came from' production was a little bit vague/ misleading, as in my view, it did not reflect the session or the objective. Perhaps i'm reading this wrong or perhaps this video will become part of a 'Where we came from' series of videos.

My view is certainly not a criticism, I just felt that in this instance the title did not match the content too well. Other than that, it was still an excellent production.

Jean-Claude, I found some information that talks about the whole incarnation trap. This really validates our beliefs that we are sovereign beings with free will. The whole trap is held together by lie after lie and the biggest lie is that it is a trap at all. It only works with our belief system and that goes deeper than an enigma wrapped in a mystery.

This article clarifies many RVs done by Courtney’s team. It shows that those RVs are very real and relevant but the trap is only a trap we hold in place by our beliefs.

https://www.prometheanrebellion.com/archontic-soul-trap.html

Thanks for sharing the above link. I found it quite informative.

Hi Vickie, thank you for posting Lucas Conor's work on this platform. I didn't read everything on his website but what I read suggest that he has given a lot of thought to the death traps, and that's good.

He is suggesting 3 ways to avoid death traps: awareness, direct resistance, and elevation of one's consciousness in this life.

Those are excellent points, especially the increasing in awareness because that can ultimately lead to the realization (as you rightfully said) that we are Sovereign/Immortal Beings/IS-BEs living in a world where the Law of Free Will is the law of the land.

He also mentions using direct resistance against death traps.

Well, one can probably do that but in reality it is not necessary, and it is not efficient to resist because a Sovereign Being manifests his/her reality at will, especially in the world between reincarnations where conscious creation is instantaneous. Or in OB as I learned from you.

So, to avoid death traps, we can choose to manifest an after-death reality where traps don't exist at all. And this is done through intent.

That is why it is important for us to realize before death that we are Sovereign Beings (as you said). And as such, we are unlimited and we can manifest our reality at will, alone or in cooperation with other IS-BEs. It is difficult to come to this realization in 3D but, as you know it is doable.

Another thing that's important is our belief systems because that is what we manifest here now in 3D, and what we will manifest after death.

For instance, I have heard people say that you can escape the reincarnation wheel by looking for holes in the grid... or something like that.

What they don't realize is that they manifest these holes because they are part of their belief system at the time of death. That's why we need to have a clear idea what we want after death.

So, we may not want to entertain death trap ideas at all!. And for sure, fear is the last thing we need at that time.

I'm really not crazy about the idea that we need to elevate our consciousness as Lucas says. Somehow, it implies that we have a deficiency in whatever we consider consciousness. And I am not sure that I agree with that!

We are not deficient in anything!

What we lack is the awareness of who we really are, and that is expected because by entering 3D, we agree to get involved in the Game of Forgetfulness.

But once we reconnect with the Spark of Divinity Within, or the God Within, then we can start seeing through the Game of Forgetfulness, and we are done with life in 3D.

Now, I would like to mention how critical it is to hold a strong belief and a clear understanding of the Law of Free Will, as The Fundamental Law of our universe.

If violated this law warrants a shift intervention. That is why after death, souls are presented with "situations" where they can decide ON THEIR OWN to reincarnate.

It can be angels, deceased relatives, relaxing lights.. or whatever can be used to convince them to exercise their Free Will. But their decision has to be made VOLUNTARILY.

That's why you will never hear that a soul has been FORCED to come back here. And the memory is zapped cleaned only after the individual has agreed VOLUNTARILY to reincarnate.

But the Law of Free Will does not protect those who are gullible or just unaware.

So, if you believe in the half-truths that your guardian angel, saint (probably a faked one, or one who is part of the system) uses to convince you to reincarnate on earth, that's too bad. Hopefully, you will learn to give him the middle finger next time around.

Let's use the Law of Free Will to our advantage!

With this law, no one can force you to do something that you don't want. And we gotta learn to clearly ask them to move on if we feel some deception after death.

Remember that we can instantaneously manifest what we want after death. It means that we need to know what we want when we transition.

Beware of mental traps created thru belief systems by worshiping institutions. They are the most used on earth, and by far the worst types of reincarnation traps because by worshiping an outside force/god, we VOLUNTARILY abdicate and surround our sovereignty (or God Within) and our Free Will, to whatever we are worshiping.

Because this a voluntary surrender, no rescue is possible. And as long as our belief systems remain unchanged, we will keep committing ourselves to the asylum, life times after life times.

Jean-Claude, I agree with your assessment. I also thought it was interesting that the author (who is quite the researcher) found what he believed to be the start of this prison planet and how it all began.

He also firmly believes, as I do, that it’s really our choice to come back here to earth but I also believe that is part of the trick. You see, if you were never informed about this reincarnation trick you wouldn’t know you have the free will to avoid it. Being informed about the real you and your inherent free will is the key.

I’ve been going OB for a long time and I have never seen this trap. I know many others that go OB and have never seen it. Robert Monroe never learned about a trap in all of his years of work. Nor even, Thomas Campbell.

I’m not saying a trap doesn’t exist, I’m saying that it only exists because, though our mind controlled belief system on earth, we manifest the trap. Many religious people are told to follow that very light, which is the trap. The trap is really just the brainwashing of living on earth. It’s a mental trap and most people just move right through to the light because that’s their beliefs. It’s amazing that the author even speaks of how we are made to believe that the “light” is the right choice even through practices of spirituality and New Age beliefs. Like with those that consider themselves lightworkers. The light is a trick that keeps us coming back.

I think raising your conscious means to learn about the real you, not your body. It’s not all that new age BS about service to others (STO) although some are compelled toward healing or volunteering their help and that’s good. I mean really, we are here until we drop our physical bodies so why not raise your consciousness? You won’t forget any of your earth experiences so, “live in the now”.

I thought the author validated some of the RV’s done by Courtney and his team too. It shows that some people like, JFK went right to the light as was his beliefs. Those are all valid RVs because we manifest our beliefs.

Anyway, since reading, Alien Interview I have been doing much research and going very deep and I believe I understand this reincarnation trap. The only wall keeping us here is the one we manifest through our beliefs.

Vickie,

I wrote the above post late last night, and I was tired and some of the things that I wrote were not very clear. However, I have made a few changes that clarify my thinking.

However, I can say is that we are saying the same thing with slightly different words.

But before I move and talk about that, I want to say that earth was turned into a prison around 33 to 36,000 years ago. I cannot prove that because I got this information from an "episode of knowingness" where I just know stuff, and I cannot explain how this happens. This phenomenon started 4 years ago after I recovered from a major illness and surgery that I almost did not survive.

I agree with you when you say that "it is our choice to come back to earth" and you add "being informed about the real you and your inherent free will is the key".

Brilliant!

Here is my question: do you think that all the billions people who are into religion (all the religions) on earth know really who they are, and are aware of their free will?

I don't think so. And for me that is the tragedy on planet earth, and that's why it is a prison plane because the core dominant belief system that drive creation is based on submission and surrounding to some god who tell us that he is "jealous god" .

To be continued. Have to run!

Vickie, where are we now? Ok, I know!

You said it, and so did I, the trapping on earth is done thru human belief systems. But for you and I, and for about 600 million people, nothing can hold us prisoners here on earth. It means that earth is not a prison for us.

But it is a prison for close to 6.9 billion people! That's a lot. Those are the folks that have to be freed by "storming the gates" as you were shown in your OB trip.

So, that "storming of the gates" that you saw in your OB, that event that you saw was not to free yourself. It was to free those who cannot free themselves.

The 600 millions are the storm troopers who will storm the gates to free the @ 6.9 billions who need help getting out.

So you're absolutely right when you say that you and so many other folks have never encountered any traps in your OB experiences.

You should not because your team of OBers are part of the 600 million people who know about the nature of reality, and conscious creation. So you are not going to create traps out there to hold yourselves prisoners.

But there are very close to 6.9 billions people right now who thru their belief systems, and unbeknownst to them, continue to self incarcerate in the earth prison.

In fact, if given the choice between leaving by storming the gates or remaining one earth, quite a lot will choose the jail cells. That's is why servitude and slavery thru religious belief systems is most deadly form of entrapment.

I had a episode of knowingness on that a couple of days ago after reading an analysis of islam that Jason made in the thread that Ahmed started on Muhammad The Arabian Prophet. I suggest that you read that Jason's post.

I was raised catholic, so I saw the whole entrapment perpetuated thru that church, and I was horrified! Everything, rituals like eating the body of Christ and drinking his blood, the saints, the angels and archangels are part of the system of worshiping an outside god.... therefore entrapment. But Christ was real...

When I saw the gates being stormed it was as if all went as one with no question. Can you imagine millions of sovereign beings leading the way out for billions of others to go free so they can make their own choice? This is my path. It’s what I know I can do for people when the time comes. I’ve seen it and I’ll be one of those millions leading the billions. I bet you will be too, Jean-Claude.

I agree that Jesus Christ was real. No doubt. His message was so distorted but I believe he came to help people to raise their consciousness because the dark was taking hold on the planet.

Interesting ideas and ideologies expressed by Vickie and Jean-Claude. Thank you for sharing your perspectives.

I can honestly say that my experience here on this planet/this life has been pretty great! Times of trouble and confusion sure, but overall I cannot identify with the idea that life (lives) on this planet are to be avoided in favor of the unknown.

This assumption that escape from our earthly experience will automatically bring freedom is a fairly pollyanish concept IMO.

Robert, interesting point of view, and I'm happy to hear that your life is great. Whatever that means.

In your next incarnation you will be a dalit in India, and I'm sure you will have a great life there too.

You wrote:

"Evil comes from the "other", not from ourselves! This way of thinking is all too easy and is what is behind the seeming inability of the human race to progress."

Where did you get that? Certainly not from this thread. You are definitely talking about yourself.

You have no clues what Vickie and I are talking about. And I'm not interested in explaining anything to you.

So let's move on. And you do the same.

Yes, Vickie. I am part of the storm trouper group, or "troupes de choc" in French. I have sort of known about something that would happen. We "saw" that in 1998.

Now I finally understand the meaning of that "dream" that we had in 1998. "We" because it was a shared dream with my wife. She felt it but could not see what happened. I could see but could not feel what happened.

This dream has been in my mind forever. I could not forget it. But now, I understand what we saw and felt!

Essentially, we are part of the group of volunteers that Dolores Cannon talked about in her books. She mentioned 3 groups, if I'm not mistaking.

But in reality there were more than 3 groups. In fact, the largest group came in the 1800s. Then, the next biggest contingent arrived in the 1930s between World War 1 and 2. Gaia herself, sent the call for the 1930 volunteers because the probability that the planet earth would be blown up after WW2 was very high. And more came after that.

And we did well because, we did not blow the planet "a la Maldek". And once it became evident that WW3, was not going to take place, a lot of people left planet earth. But some got their stay extended. I didn't understand why, but now I do.

P.S.: Gaia is the IS-BE whose physical body is planet earth. And yes, she does exist.

Hey Eric, good to see you post here.

Well, I must confess that I have a soft spot for Dolores Cannon. Many, many years ago, we worked together several time, and I truly appreciate her.

Dolores did some pioneering work that helped several people (like me and maybe you) wake up and look at things in life that were begging to be addressed at that time.

So, I think we must forgive and overlook the mistakes that she made in the understanding, analysis and publication of the unusual new information that she was receiving all over the world from her hypnosis sessions.

We also have to be mindful that the information that she published didn’t come from her. It came from the public around the world, and it was specific and reflected man’s consciousness at that time.

And at that time, the world was just waking up. And talking about the Law of Free Will or death trap would have been too much.

It was easier to introduce spirituality by having Nostradamus HIMSELF speak to us TODAY about his Quatrains. Mind you that he lived in the 1500s! So, she published her Conversations with Nostradamus in 3 books.

She told me that as the public became more and more aware, the questions and material received in her hypnosis sessions changed accordingly and reflected the public sophistication. So books like Conversation with an ET, and the Convoluted Universe books came.

I am not trying to make some excuses for Dolores’ mistakes. What I am saying is that we have to be careful when we analyze her work through the information, understanding, knowledge and sophistication that we have today. Some of these books are below our current levels of sophistication.

As far as earth being a school, yes we can say that. My understanding is that there are two main objectives in the current earth school.

The first objective is for man to overcome the difficulties and challenges that exist in 3D, and figure out how to see thru the veil, or Game of Forgetfulness, and realize who he is really; that is, he is a Sovereign/Immortal Being.

The second objective can be run as a first objective, or concurrently with the objective mentioned above. This objective is for man to achieve ONENESS with the universe by realizing that everything is connected. That there is only ONE of us out there: separation does not exist. Therefore, when a child die of starvation in East Africa, India, and Syria or Irak... It affects us and we cry because we are ONE.

If you find yourself seeing a lot of mistakes or inconsistencies in a book. What that means is that, you have outgrown the truths in that book. I would suggest that you find other books that fit your needs.