Here is some interesting stuff, I'd heard of the Wingmakers more than a decade ago. Seems to me there is this opinion that the Galactic Federation of Worlds who claim to be working with the human Alliance or Q team to be 'saving the world'. Well, I think they are just trying to be the new 'prison guards' and masters of the universe.
The Wingmakers and their Warning for a Threat from Synthetic Beings
November 2, 2025 / Joost
A piece of Wingmakers art from Chamber 8 (14)
Back in March 2022 I wrote a post on the intriguing material related to the Wingmakers (1). You may remember that account that was based on a couple of interviews that were done by someone called Dr. Anderson and a journalist called Anne (2). Dr. Anderson told Anne that he was part of a secret government agency called ‘ACIO’ (Advanced Contact Intelligence Organization) that studied the Wingmakers material, including some disc with certain specific information. These Wingmakers were supposed to have come from some 750 years in the future (1).
For more of an introduction I recommend reading the article from 2022 first (1). This current article focuses on a passage of the interview related to a certain species that the Wingmakers would have warned us for. The reason for picking this particular passage can be found in some discussion that took place between Dr. Salla, Dan Winter and me, Joost, the author of this website. This discussion provides a good opportunity to once again look into the Wingmakers material, and the interesting intricacies related to it.
DAN WINTER AND DR. SALLA ON THE WINGMAKERS
An important aspect for anyone seriously studying the Wingmakers material is that there are two versions of the interviews: the original one and a manipulated one (3). In the summer of 2025 Dr. Salla posted an interview (6) he did with Dan Winter (7-13). Let’s first listen to a relevant excerpt from that interview:
Michael Salla and Dan Winter on the Wingmakers (6)
In the above excerpt we can hear Dr. Salla talk about the ‘Ethortans’ who are a species that are part of the swaruu-perspective (15). Dan Winter expresses his love for the Wingmakers material and he makes an interesting link between Old Hungarian and Draco. Furthermore he talks about ‘Blank Slate Technology’ that is an important element within the interviews. As Winter explains this technology would allow people to be able to wipe the memories of people within the secret space programs (16). According to the information from Jason Rice, the ‘Antarctic Germans’ would have held this technology way before the Deep State finally got their hand on it in 1979 by stealing it from the Germans (17).
Dan also mentions the Animus which he defines as:
ON THE ANIMUS
In description of the interview Dr. Salla writes: “Winter believes that the leadership of the Galactic Federation of Worlds has been compromised by malevolent interstellar AI he refers to as “Etorthans” who are shapeshifters and appear to be the same Animus described in the Wingmakers material. Winter rightly points to the infiltration problems with AI experienced by secret space programs and extraterrestrials more generally.”
In a X-post from July 13, 2025 (18) we can hear Dr. Salla say the following as an introduction to a video by the WHY-Files (5, 19):
“Finally, the solution to a possible future AI invasion (the Animus) would have involved some variations of changing time and upgrading human consciousness so the Animus would not be able to assimilate us. This is very relevant today given the rise of AI and its connection to off-world manifestations.”
NO ANIMUS IN THE ORIGINAL TEXT
When I heard both Dr. Michael Salla and Dan Winter talk about the Animus, I decided to check the original version of the Wingmakers material to see if they mentioned the Animus at all. Instead of reading it all I asked Grok to do it for me and check if the word ‘Animus’ appeared, and the answer was negative. It did, however, appear in the manipulated variant (20).
Fred Burks. screenshot from (21)
JEFF BURKS ON THE STRANGE APPEARANCE OF THE WORD ANIMUS IN THE MANIPULATED VERSION
Jeff Burks (21) is the creator of the original wingmakers website and a website called ‘Wanttoknow.info‘ (22). He also noticed the absence of the word ‘Animus’ in the original text.
He writes: “The original interviews talk about an alien race (called the animus in the changed interviews) which is from a galaxy 2.6 million light years away. In the changed interviews, the distance is changed to 37 million light years. In the original interviews, the Corteum is described as coming from a planet 15,000 light years away. In the changed version, this number is changed to 15 million. Why would someone go to the trouble of changing these distances if they were only “additions” to the story? Could it be that someone doesn’t want us to look on star charts and figure out which solar systems and galaxies are involved? (23)
FALSE USE OF ‘ANIMUS’ BY DR. SALLA AND DAN WINTER?
All the above information on the Animus was enough for me to conclude that both Dr. Salla and Dan Winter were wrong when they talked about some evil race called the Animus that would have been mentioned in the Wingmakers. I had an extensive discussion about this with Winter (13) and I told him that he was basing his theories on the false and distorted version of the Wingmakers material, which was putting the Wingmakers material in a bad light. I said this as well to Dr. Salla in his chat group (24).
NOVEMBER 2025 DEVELOPMENT AND A SYNTHETIC RACE
In November 2025, Dr. Salla contacted me to respond to my criticism regarding the use of Animus by him. I was surprised to hear that although the word Animus was not used in the original version synthetic species were mentioned; read along:
“About all I can tell you is that we know — from both the prophecies and our remote viewing technology — a significant amount of information about this race.
“For example, we know that it hails from a galaxy that our Hubble telescope has examined as thoroughly as possible and we’ve charted it as extensively as possible. We know that it is 2.6 million light years away and that the species is a synthetic race — a mixture of genetic creation and technology. It possesses a hive mentality, but individual initiative is still appreciated as long as it is aligned with the explicit objectives of its leaders. “Because it is a synthetic race, it can be produced in a controlled environment and its population can be increased or decreased depending on the whims of its leaders. It is . . . “
… “The aliens that are coming desire to own this planet and add it to its colonization plans. As I’ve already mentioned, this is a synthetic race. A species that can clone itself and fabricate more and more of its population to serve the purpose of its colonization program. However, it desires more diversity, and earth will represent an opportunity for it to diversify.”(2)
SOME REFLECTIONS
When you watch the sensationalist video from WHY-Files (5) you get a description of the animus as androids who are AI-driven who are longing to have souls. In the original text there is no mention of soulless AI-driven Animus. Although I initially thought there wasn’t even any mention of a synthetic race, Dr. Salla directed me to a part that did talk about a synthetic race as it was mentioned by Dr. Anderson in the Wingmakers interviews.
Crop Circle with binary (ASCII) message (27,31)
Who would that species be? We need to remember that these interviews were from the end of the 21th century. As Jeff Burks suggested, perhaps we can determine who these species are looking for planets that have a distance of 2,6 million light years away? Who exactly warned them for this species? Was this information from that disc? Could they have been referring to the Nebu (26), although most of them are not synthetic? He explicitly used the word ‘hive’ to describe them. It also reminds me of that warning for the arrival of the Grays from the Emerther in that famous crop circle (27).
For now I prefer to think that these Wingmakers were indeed warning us for this Nebu Gray collective that would indeed have had plans to colonize our world and replace humanity with their hybrids. These plans would have been prevented and the Nebu would have been fully neutralized (28,29). So, people would just be worrying about a threat that no longer exists.
SOME WORDS FOR DR. SALLA AND DAN WINTER
As to the question whether I was right to claim that Dr. Salla and Dan Winter were wrong in claiming that the Wingmakers material talks about the Animus and a synthetic AI-threat, the answer is multifaceted: I falsely accused them of saying that there was no word on a dangerous synthetic race in the Wingmakers. There apparently is. They, however, were wrong in using the term Animus for this species, because it’s not part of the original interview. The sensationalist use of Animus in the WHY-video with words like ‘soulless’ and ‘AI-threat’ allegedly based on the Wingmakers material, is also way over the top.
Let me know what your thoughts are on this intriguing issue. Join our GA Study Group or subscribe (30).
FOOTNOTES
(1) The Timecapsules of the Wingmakers
(2) Transcript of Interviews Wingmakers (original website)
(3) Here’s a quote from the original website:
Special Note: The above is a copy of the introduction page to the ACIO (Advanced Contact Intelligence Organization) on the original WingMakers website. Should you explore the current WingMakers website at wingmakers.com, be aware that it has changed in many ways from its original form. The ACIO story there has been seriously distorted to the point of being disinformation. For further information on how the website has been changed, click here. (4)
(4) https://www.wingmakers.us/wingmakersorig/acio/www.wingmakers.com/arrow/acio/acio1.shtml
(5) Project Ancient Arrow | The NSA’s Secret War Against Our Future
(6) Has the Galactic Federation of Worlds leadership been compromised by AI?
(7) The physicist Dan Winter appears a few times on this website, especially because of a number of interviews he did with Elena Danaan (8,9).
(8) On Lovingly Connecting with Someone Else
(9) On Green-skinned People
(10) Enki Shows Elena Danaan a Vajra with Plasma Beams
(11) On Jesus, Jehovah, the Hoova and Thiaoouba
(12) The Taal-Shiar and the Swaruu A.I.
(13) Thread on Dan Winter and Anton Parks in the Galactic Anthropogy Study Group (see the discussion starting from July 29, 2025)
(14) Chamber 8
(15) The Etherians – In this article you can find a link to this other species called the ‘Ethortans’ at footnote 22.
(16) Age Regression by 20 Years – 20 Years and Back – Testimonies by various SSP Recruits.
(17) The Antarctic Germans – An Overview
(18) https://t.me/michaelsallaofficial/93244
(19) Here’s a relevant (and quite sensational) excerpt on the ‘Animus’ from the WHY-files episode (5) that Dr. Salla refers to in the July 13, 2025, telegram post (18):
The WHY-files on the Wingmakers and Animus (5)
(20) Grok Answer to my question to find the word ‘Animus’ both in the original and in the manipulated variant
(21) The Wingmakers Controversy: Time Travel, ACIO & Extraterrestrial Threats
(22) Wanttoknow.info
(23) Changes to WingMakers Interviews: Comparison of Original and Changed Interviews
(24) Telegram Group of Dr. Salla
(25) Manipulated Interviews from second website
(26) The Nebu and the Alliance of the Six
(27) Crop Circles and Binary Messages
(28) And the Lights went Out for the Nebu
(29) The Discovery of Many Millions of Hybrids in a Deserted Galactic Hideout
(30) Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Galactic Anthropology Study Group (most active group with hundreds of separate discussion topics) Alex Collier Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel and even her own open telegram chat group. Dr. Salla also runs a Telegram Group. Do you want to help with studying the Deep State? Join the Gondolath Globalist Narratives Study Group or visit the website: Gondolath Project. You can also follow the alternative side of current events at the Laura Aboli Archive. We recently started a Diddy and Epstein group as well. Galactic Anthropology tries to spread both the disclosure information and the Deep State Explorations at Facebook, X (Twitter), on VK, Youtube and on TikTok. Hope to see you soon in one of the groups! Like, share and subscribe.
(31) https://www.cropcircleconnector.com/articles/09052016/09052016.html