From what I understood, Princess Jeaneé, Aziz and Shantae's RV might be related to this.
What do you guys think?
From what I understood, Princess Jeaneé, Aziz and Shantae's RV might be related to this.
What do you guys think?
I would like to make sure that I get how you are justifying the invasion of Ukraine by putin.
What you are saying is that the presence of the neo-nazi Azov battalion in Ukraine presents a clear and eminent danger to the 2 million ethnic russians of the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine, and to the 144 million citizens of russia.
Therefore, to neutralize this danger, putin has to get rid of the mighty force of the Azov battalion (estimated to have 300 to 1,000 members) by invading Ukraine with an ultra-modern army estimated to have some +100,000 soldiers.
Frankly, does this make sense to you? You usually write good posts. So, what happened here?
However, history teaches us that soon or later, invaders always bite the dust.
I justify nothing. But I try to change perspective frome time to time, to get a broader view on geopolitical events. Here, even the British intelligence warned about the azov as a political movement: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/10/21/how-to-mainstream-neo-nazis-a-lesson-from-ukraines-new-government/
There are more aspects to the current crisis than the Donbass, its water on crimea, it is also the Intermarium, US medium range rockets and about to sell dirty fracking gas to Europe at a high price. And of course to cut a good chunk out of the reimported Russian gas money on the costs of the poor Ukrainian people. There are so many aspects, propaganda war on lowest level against Putin, and so on...
Ok, Elemi, I got you.
Putin is doing the world a great favor by conducting a denazification special operation (not a war!) in Ukraine.
And there are so many aspects to this operation, and so much war propaganda against putin that it is not possible for people outside Russia and its former or current satellites, to understand what's going on in Ukraine today.
So, there is no need to continue this discussion.
Let's move on.
Only Your implications again, no real arguments. Thus, no real discussion possible. I have many more arguments - for both "sides" if liked...
Nope, there is no discussion possible here between you and I. We are not going to agree on anything here.
For instance, you believe that putin is conducting a denazification of Ukraine that he said is led by a neo-nazi, drug-addicted regime. But the reality is that Volodymyr Zelenskyy is jewish!
Let's move on. We have agreed on several topics in the past. So, it's alright if we don't agree on this specific one.
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At the end of the day, putin is another zionist controlled asset. They are all in it.
I would say step way way back (all the way back to: we are eternal children of the cosmos and not tied to grubby little concepts like nation and country) and look at all the history. Firstly countries and nations are fabrications, not god-given but made up. They are all gang territories and their leaders all carry gang colours.
Where I live we have kings and queens, dukes and duchesses, princes and princesses [not lovely ones like Farsight], and earls of the realm and barons and knights and sirs and right honourables, and lords and ladies - these are all gang colours acquired in bloodletting and dirty business. Ruling elites concentrate wealth in the hands of a few and preside over legal systems that protect their own interests over all others. Through thinly veiled state mechanisms the ruling elites hold the 'monopoly of violence'. They make the system that sustains them into a sacred object that their subjects will work, kill and die for.
What is happening in Ukraine is sickening. Pure horror and perpetrated in the most dismal and despicable way. And the situation is dangerous beyond measure to all of us. But what exactly have the Western gangs been doing in the Middle East recently? Look at the brutal history of the various European empires, at the atrocities of the US. Where is the moral centre? Putin's actions are obscene but it is pure ideological thinking to see our own gang leaders as any nicer. As Elemi points out there are perspectives that we are not given from our local propaganda machines. The history of the Ukraine, Poland, Russia is so very twisted and cruel, not because of the people but because of the systems humans use to live on this planet. And it seems our systems are inspired by and presided over ultimately by Imperial ETs. ETs who seek iron control and who see openess and freedom and creativity as universally degenerate.
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Whataboutism at its best. Don't defend the indefensible.
Phil, I hear what you are saying. But two wrongs don’t make it right.
The ugliness and inhumanity perpetuated by the west today (ex. English feudal cast system, economic enslavement of 3rd world countries with IMF and World Bank loans ); and throughout history (ex. slavery and colonization) are not and will never be acceptable.
But the ugliness and inhumanity of the west cannot and do not justify the violent invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine in the 21st century.
@DARIO -
I'm not sure that Princess's Viewing summary was related to Ukraine/Russia. I got the impression her Viewing was related to more of a natural event, which then caused a manmade disaster -
PrinCess said:
"I’m going to move to the target event here cause I’m feeling an event happening
There’s just water - crashing sounds that I’m hearing –
I feel definitely, something natural happening and causing the natural disaster – it’s causing a manmade disaster in a city with some foliage minimal – large city - lots of subjects – people are hurt.
I think Aziz's session could represent conflict in an Urban zone -
Aziz said:
...Anyway, that is all the data that I have for this target – it does seem to be that this structure or non-surface structure object that went overhead of this urban area, seemed to drop three things down – it seems to catalyse some destruction inside of an urban area that has foliage, hilltops - in my earlier sketches you saw foliage on some hilltops as well as a big of water nearby.
Shantae's viewing could be related to citizen population movement - an evacuation -
Shantae said:
...So overall the event that I have here is a large urban environment that’s been completely abandoned, and the subjects leave outside this urban environment, and they’ve set up these little camps and there are multiple camps – and they have a very similar look – all of them. but it wasn’t really planned out – and the subjects are basically trying to survive outside of the city.
Aziz also summarized with a comment:
... Some events involve destruction in urban areas possibly the result of military activity.
A sign of hope as agreement to meet for talks at neutral location to end this