Interesting video. It reminds me of something a friend said, who was living in Arizona, about one of her trips out into the desert near Why,AZ. She encountered one of the gray aliens in a craft and they communicated telepathically she said, telling her that they were in the area having something to do with working on the "grid". I had no idea what "grid" she had been talking about.

Hi Crystal, I live in AZ & have traveled through Why, AZ many times on my way to Mexico. It is a very small town in the middle of wide open Sonoran desert. See if you can learn more about your friend’s encounter with the greys there. What she is saying is consistent with much I have read and watched lately. The greys are worker robots created alien races. Yes apparently more than one. Here I have heard it is the reptilians but don’t know. If this electromagnetic grid is real and emanates from earth perhaps it fails and needs repair at times. Perhaps it can be disrupted or destroyed.

Hi LRH, I wish I could talk to her but she is deceased now. She loved the desert and went out into the desert frequently when she was alive. Her son was an EMT and rescuer in Arizona and I might be able to locate him.
You are fortunate to live in Arizona. There must be something to this grid thing.
I wonder if it is somehow connected to this "space fence" system: https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/space-fence.html

LRH,
I found out her son retired as an EMT and went into teaching it. He doesn't remember the grey or the UFO she talked about. I think she may never have told him. She was involved in metaphysics, Native American arts, and literature.
I think the grid story is interesting I just need to see more validating evidence to be convinced. Perhaps reading the books you mentioned would convince me although I don't think a book will do it. I've been reading Matilda MacElroys' Alien Interview but I think it seems so much like fiction to me.

Not afraid at all. Ignorance creates fear. I am learning. For example I will not go to the light after dying if I am able to make that choice. Still working on my subconscious via hypnosis but lucid dreaming is becoming more common. Do not feel fear, anger, or hate with these alien entities as they seem to feed off that and diminish our strength. Don’t fight them. Look for the holes in grid and fly through by conscious intention. The universe welcomes us.

Ozgur you skipped far more than Courtney’s comments. You skipped reading so many books that have been presented here (Alien Interview and Grey Aliens and Harvesting of Souls) as well as watching the many videos linked here. The questions you ask would find answers if not simply ideas to consider. No one just comes up with such a concept as this and certainly no one wants to believe it. I came across this by chance. Just happened to read the two books I mentioned and was not looking for this topic and certainly not to see one book corroborate the other. Then to later see a video from Courtney validate them was crazy like he even said. Read, watch, and consider.

Thanks for sharing. Glad you experiences are positive. Unfortunately too much evidence from a variety of sources back him up. Perhaps on a different timeline. Perhaps false memory implants.

The challenge with the logic and argument that you are using in your post is that you are not providing your RV study to make your points, and refute the existence of death traps.

Instead, you are using a Farsight study (JFK Assassination) to try to invalidate another Farsight study (Death Traps).
But what you fail to understand is that Courtney uses the scientific method to design specific RV studies with clearly defined objectives. Therefore, the information from one study (JFK Assassination) cannot be used to reach a conclusion in another study (Death Traps).

And as far as tasking is concerned, you asked: “Why 2 possibilities????”.

I’m not a RVer, and I don’t think that I’m qualified to answer your question from an RV perspective.

But from the standpoint of designing studies using the scientific method, resources limitation is the main limiting factor. So, it would have been very nice to study all the possibilities that are available to souls after death but at what cost?

However, I agree with you that there are probably more possibilities available to souls after death, but another study will be needed to figure out these other venues.

Also, if Courtney has limited his study to two possibilities only, it is because any data or literature review shows that the idea of death traps is one of the most prevalent hypothesis that suggests what might happen to souls after death. Courtney has to run the RV study to verify that this hypothesis is reality.

Hi Larry,

I'm absolutely not limiting my conclusions on just RV studies. I am very well aware of the overwhelming evidence that exists out there in support of death traps, and I agree with that information and I have re-read the Alien Interview.

In fact, I have a thread titled "Link for Alien Interview" in this General Farsight Prime Discussion session. But unfortunately, that link is not working any longer.

However, my position on the death traps has evolved and will probably continue to change over time.

Right now, I am convinced that there are death traps and more stuff and scenarios (ex. the apparition of guides, angels, saints, councils, and deceased relatives ...) out there that are designed to entice or even trick souls into getting back on the reincarnation wheel after death.

But I'm also convinced that between lives after death, a soul is working without the 3D limitations, and it can use the Law of Free Will to get out of the matrix.

Hi Lori, Thanks for the links. Will checkout. I did look to see when the first Hubbard book was written and said 1985. The interview transcripts were created after the “alleged” crash in 1947. Was supposedly held by the govt for years & the nurse out of fear until just before her death recently. We don’t have to believe either source & both could be false. I prefer not to believe any of this and like you can find reasons why not. Courtney only brought the book up out of surprise not corroboration. I do as well.

thats interesting. when reading it I kept thinking some of the transcript sounded like Scientology. I would like to compare the plagiarized parts that Bill Ryan is talking about. if true it certainly cast some major doubts in my mind.

After reading some of the "Alien Interview" I felt it was fiction too and put it aside for awhile. I wondered if it was one of the books put out by the CIA for disinformation -- mixing truth with lies. The CIA is using writers (not just media and journalists). It doesn't surprise me to see that someone is correlating this with Scientology, and L. Ron Hubbard after listening to a Dark Journalist youtube episode. The Dark Journalist in one of the interviews of Robert Merritt, Merritt mentioned the CIA female that went to Hubbard's house for a sexual encounter. It sounds like the CIA targets people for manipulation, compromises them in various ways, and uses the "control files" on these people.

Norman, Appreciate your sharing of ideas from your own experience rather than accepting what others report. I do as well but not with RV rather with years of meditation and hypnosis. Truth is in the subconscious and higher self. It’s important we recognize we can be wrong and have been wrong. What you believe now I’m sure has changed over the years. It may again but not if you suddenly remain rigid in your beliefs as you appear now. If you can brand others experiences as fantasy your own can be as well. Pure evil is not validating the soul. It’s existence was simply felt. If some souls are detained and others are not it is because of their level of awareness of what is going on and choice. See what is real and what is not. To accept it or escape it. Yes that is the God/Divine in us that becomes manifest not new age books or YouTube videos. That is your way of writing off a view you don’t share. I have the Journey of Souls as well. It is in the same class of new age propaganda you distain. Suggest you use hypnosis Norman. Simply experience in another manner. No you may not know where you are being guided or by who. When you dream is it always lucid?Unless you do you can’t be sure of the decisions you will make or if you will be clear. Keep seeking

Appreciate your sharing. I 'appear' 100% confident based on my profession crossover and many things I cannot communicate adequately in any blog discussion. I am not 100% and appreciate your views of 'truth', I assure you I will not totally discredit and forget them even though it seem I have attempted that based on my knowledge and use of RV. I use meditation (which is a form of hypnosis), dreams, RV, etc. etc.. to obtain 'experiences'. I am impressed with your level of 'belief' and quite frankly in my 'experiences of the after life' I have concerns with a few concepts that seem to be overly 'controlling' so I am still 'open' to ideas of others. Of course I am a human without the advantage of my total knowledge attempting to interpret my 'interactions with guides, after life individuals, etc.', which may impact my understanding. I am a 'truth seeker' I do not think as a human it is possible to ever be 100% satisfied I understand important aspects of 'Divine-type' things. I will/do continue to seek. An important requirement of seeking 'truth' is to have some understanding of different concepts, this idea of a 'death trap' and 'prison planet' are certainly 'new' ideas I had never heard expressed before. Good luck in your quest!!!

I would like to bring your attention to the following 3 points:

1. You are God/Immortal Being, but you are not aware of that because by incarnating in 3D you have agreed to participate in the Game of Forgetfulness.

2. The only time when you are not participating in the Game of Forgetfulness is after death. It is in this period that, as God/Immortal Being, you can experience your true unlimited power and potential. And whatever you decide to do in the after-death period becomes your reality.

3. A window of opportunity to exit the re-incarnation cycle (matrix) is presented to souls after death because they are not subjected to the restrictions and limitations of the Game of Forgetfulness. And at this point, souls can choose to do whatever they want, as allowed by the Law of Free Will.

During this period, a soul can request to merge with One Infinite Creator of this galaxy, and this request will be honored as per the Law of Free Will.

Beware of the so-called guides, saints, relatives, religious figures…, and lights, and warm and fuzzy situations that will manifest themselves after death. They will counsel, nudge, coax, or trick you back to the re-incarnation cycle.

Goodluck!

Forgetfulness is a bonus not a game..our game is learning through experiencing everything and growth of self by this we gain fortitude so we can put-up with the crap in a this 3d world.

I agree with your point of view that forgetfulness plays a critical role in helping us survive or (as you said adequately) “put up with the crap in this 3d world”.

But outside of 3d, when we operate in our true state of being as God/Immortal Being, we don’t need to rely on forgetfulness, or on anything to BE. Because as God/Immortal Being, we are ALL-THERE-IS.

To go from a God/Immortal Being with no boundary or limitation, to a limited meek and weak 3d mortal, we AGREE to forget who we really are because we know that it is a game. It is the Game of Forgetfulness. Otherwise, why would we do it?

However, things are getting very interesting now on earth because more and more folks are asking some questions about the 3d experiment. Its purpose? Completion point(s)? Duration? Ownership? Ambiguity and lack of transparency?

For instance, the folks have been told that they have to endure miserable lives on earth so that they can improve themselves. And for the most deserving ones who reach enlightenment, the rewards are at the end of the tunnel.

But we know that it is a fat lie because there is no reward at the end of the tunnel. The only “rewards” that folks receive after death is to have their memory wiped out!

Then, they are tricked and stacked back on the reincarnation cycle where they start over at zero, with no recall of their accomplishments in prior lives.

Wouldn't it had made sense to recall past lives, so that we can avoid past mistakes? Enlightenment would have been reached faster, and this would have shortened the time spent suffering on earth.

So why suffer and endure miserable lives on earth if all our accomplishments are purposely wiped out?

In fact, what is the point of life on earth?

Life on earth does not make sense. It is an exercise in futility for us because the current earth experiment is designed to keep us in bondage, to keep us in slavery for eternity.

I know one thing, I’m out of here.

Jean-Claude,

Sorry you couldn’t find the answers in the link. Even if you are not looking for a proof the death trap exists I thought the book was a fascinating read. It quotes from many ancient and also newer sources, describing our universe (when looked at from outside) as finite and egg shaped. That’s one of the meaning of the orphic egg and the snake (which guards it). It also explains why we are breaking easter eggs, etc.

I couldn’t summarize this huge work in a few words but I can try to briefly explain the gist that I managed to take from it and that rings true to me.

When we die, (and I believe even if we avoid going into the light) we will need to be prepared for the moment when we are confronted with entities that want to keep us in the prison. Just sneaking out and finding a hole in the grid is not what is suggested. Many have tried and failed as it is impossible to find the exit on our own. So when we meet the guardians, we need to insist that we will NOT undergo any judgement. Karma and everything that comes with it is part of the trap.
We need to be clear who we truly are and that we are going back to where we originated from.

The Gospel of Mary Magdalene describes several (I think it was seven) levels where entities will challenge our intention and we need to give the right answers to advance. This somewhat reminds me of the really scary entities in the Bardo Todol (Tibetan Book of Dead). I trust that I will have the right answers when required because my intention to leave is pure and intense.

One of the answers suggested was to pronounce that Jesus (“I am the way”) died for us and therefore we have the right to to follow him out of the prison. You’d need to read the book if you want to understand who Jesus (and Sophia) is in a gnostic understanding, that he was sent from outside to inform us that we are in a prison and that there is a way out.

On the website (didn’t see that in the book though) there is another, slightly different, method described. Since we are free to move in space and time after death we can intend to be at Jesus’ cruxifixction at precisely the time and place where he dies. There will be thousands of souls waiting for this moment and follow him out.

Georg, Urge you to read The (First) Apocalypse of James from the Nag Hammadi Library. Jesus explains to James what happens after death and how to escape those who try take souls by theft. I will paste where this starts here then go to the link for full context:
James, behold, I shall reveal to you your redemption. When you are seized, and you undergo these sufferings, a multitude will arm themselves against you that may seize you. And in particular three of them will seize you - they who sit (there) as toll collectors. Not only do they demand toll, but they also take away souls by theft. When you come into their power, one of them who is their guard will say to you, 'Who are you or where are you from?' You are to say to him, 'I am a son, and I am from the Father.' He will say to you, 'What sort of son are you, and to what father do you belong?' You are to say to him, 'I am from the Pre-existent Father, and a son in the Pre-existent One.
The link is http://gnosis.org/naghamm/1ja.html

Georg,

Thank you so much for taking time to summarize the process that the book advocates for people to escape the matrix.

I agree with almost everything that you wrote, and specially with the fact that the soul intention is absolutely clear, and that intention is clearly communicated to everyone involved.

However, after the soul has declined any invitation to go to the lights or other similar situations, where is it going? Or what does it want to do?

What concerns me a lot is that this process seems to be a very complex and scary, with a lot of challenges that the soul has to pass. And it seems that really bad things will happen to the soul if it fails these challenges.

So, I wonder if it is possible for the soul to experience a simpler situation after death. In fact, does a soul have to go through this hellish testing, or any testing at all after death?

From my perspective, the answer is no. Please, let me explain.

The soul is going through this difficult situation after death because whatever the dying person believes should happen after death does indeed manifest there.

How come, I’m sure you are going to ask me.

Well, after death a soul is no longer restricted or limited as it is in 3d. In this stage, the soul is an eternal, all-powerful, all-knowing entity that has the ability to manifest things instantly, meaning that whatever belief the person has about a situation materializes instantly and immediately right there.

In short, to avoid the bardo and soul recycling after death, first, before death, the person needs to have a positive peaceful belief system about the death process, and a harmonious and peaceful life.

The second and most important and difficult thing, is that the dying person has to believe that he is an all-knowing and all-powerful Immortal Being = Sovereign Being.

A Sovereign Being is capable of doing whatever Jesus did because Jesus said to us:

“The kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:21, KJV).

And

“He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.” John 14:12

I did not know that about the nurse. You did your homework. Yes very true that mindset may not be enough. Excellent observation & conclusions. I will checkout this link. Thanks

Well, it might be a starting point to explore anyway. There are many OB methods.

Hi Vicky,

I looked for your post about the 3 after-death possibilities but I could not find it. After a long-week at work I was looking forward to reading your post in fine details because I felt that you got it right. In fact, you nailed it.

However, you have succumbed to the pervasive, constant bombardment of negativity that our planet is subjected to, and that led you into doubting yourself, negating your own beautiful work, and deleting your post.

Please understand that being a Sovereign Being means being God. Please take note of where capital letters are used.

This is where the challenge is for almost everyone:

"No human being ever assumes personal responsibility for the fact that they, themselves - individually and collectively - are gods. This fact alone is the source of entrapment for every IS-BE."

Matilda McElroy. Alien Interview.

Can you say:

"I AM God. I AM a Sovereign Being. I am an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-encompassing Immortal Being. I AM ONE with One Infinite Creator. I AM a Sovereign Being. I AM God".

You can change or write your own mantra to anchor your God within with your Sovereign Being. There are ONE.

Jean-Claude, you are so right. I deleted that post because doubt was put on what I said and that made my silly ego decide I needed more research. I was afraid it might stop someone from looking for more answers.

I have never doubted that I am a sovereign being but I began to wonder why the nurse died and said she knew she would go right back into a baby body. She knew that she was one of the 3000 from the domain that couldn’t be rescued from earth. She stayed in contact with the ET until her (the nurse’s) death and that ET surely would have made her aware of many things and maybe even some abilities she had forgotten. Yet she knew she wasn’t getting out.

I do believe this book is truthful so if she couldn’t get off the wheel of incarceration and go back to the domain then I’m not sure that strong belief and intent is enough.

Vickie,
I have not read the Alien Interview book but I believe Jean Claude is exactly right. We are divine beings. We are God and the more we believe this the more likely it is that we will simply feel where to go and what to do when we die to move outside this control system. I will not be going with any guides or down any light tunnel. I do have a plan and will know exactly where to go. Is it faith or intention maybe both. When Jean Claude mentions Sovereignty he hits it right on the head. We are Sovereign beings filled with the fire of the feminine creation force. I want to be able to create beauty with no restrictions with others who want to play with me.

You seem concerned that the nurse who talked to the alien said she would go back to a baby body. That is what happens if we do believe we cannot escape or do not have the will to leave. Maybe she said she would reincarnate because she was too attached to her body, her family or others material types of things. I don't know. But I do believe we cannot stay attached to the things of this world if we truly intend on ending our 3D physical experience on the planet. I believe intention is enough.