Who else thinks That Israel would sink a US or Australian navy ship in the gulf and then blame Iran to drum up support, and try and extract more support for there Genocide and war crimes'' and I do not care if I am called anti semetic, My thoughts go out the the people of Israel who know there leaders are wrong

You must be new. We avoid politics here. Go rant on X, FB, Threads but not here. None of us will be sucked into your antisemitic bait. Also learn to spell

@Larry: Who is your "us"? Do you think you can talk for me? And that politics are "avoided" here, is simply a lie. Politicians are even targeted...
And yes: this would not be the first false flag operation by Israeli secret services.
It is likely that they even supported the creation of Hamas by themselves to split the Palestinian resistance.
It is also possible that the USS Liberty incident was on purpose. The sailors reported they were attacked by unmarked airplanes and that the planes even fired upon the lifeboats. Source:
https://www.usslibertyveterans.org/
https://www.usslibertyveterans.org/files/War%20Crimes%20Report.pdf
https://www.usslibertyinquiry.com/real-evidence/facts-presented-united-states-america/
Here is a book on this topic:
https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/1904132197?language=en_US
Congrats, you're for sure really one of the smartest here, Larry! -And a US plane with Arab amateur pilots hit the Pentagon...

And yes: this would not be the first false flag operation by Israeli secret services.
It is likely that they even supported the creation of Hamas by themselves to split the Palestinian resistance.” You are insanely paranoid.. All negative energy here. Stay distracted, fearful, and hateful if you wish. Don’t want more links. Your state of mind is obvious

Yes, Larry. You already know it all and you also are a true master in psychology. Therefore you have the ultimate right to insult everybody who does not share your expert opinion on Israeli secret services and politics. No need for you to engage into an objective discussion. And now it's time to play the Jew card again, Larry! -That cannot be anything else than "antisemitism" and "insanity":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

Don’t know all but know enough to recognize hate based on religion. Was it instilled growing up or inspired by Hamas raping and killing women and girls? Didn’t realize I was “playing the Jew Card” since I’m not even Jewish but no matter as you are a bigot. Facts are irrelevant. Not common here as most concerned with far larger issues like the death traps. If would be hilarious for your dumbass to go to the light and come back as a Jewish woman😂

Let us try not to be contentious amongst ourselves for reasons related to «spiritual» truths;
a lot of data exists & everybody is free to come to their own conclusions;

Some of you might know this guy; his name is Dr. Reiner Fuellmich; German-Lawyer who's successfully litigated against major int'l-corps. if I remember correctly & here is his video on Hamas...
https://rumble.com/v3pr62s-must-see-the-mystery-of-israel-solved.html

The video was uploaded a whole entire two months ago to give everybody an idea of how thoroughly Dr. Reiner Fuellmich does his research; I can't really say that I like Rumble's auto-play «feature» that cannot be turned off or disabled though (but on the other hand we can also just be creative and use things like auto-clickers with delayed timers to prevent the auto-playing; very useful for those of us who go about multi-tasking whilst listening to these things via Blue-Tooth Head-Phones...)

Edit/Addendum : Actually, apologies for that over-sight, the video was pieced together by David Sorensen; I did learn about Dr. Reiner Fuellmich through his StopWorldControl web-site though...

Fuellmich is a courageous guy, he was one of the most prominent figures during the C-crisis, speaking out against the C-crimes.
But later he was expanding his work to other topics, too
Here is his telegram
English: t.me/ReinerFuellmichEnglish
German: https://t.me/s/ReinerFuellmich
and his website with many videos including testimonies by different experts and whistleblowers:
https://icic.law/en/
Here is Clif High @Fuellmich:
https://icic.law/2023/09/17/clif-high-a-broader-view-at-life-consciousness-and-the-enemies-of-humanity/
He is in prison now. There are allegations of infidelity by his former partners against him and the German authorities used these to imprison him. Investigative detention can be for years in Germany...

@Valued Card Holder... accusing a nations secret intelligence agency of committing a false flag event to drum up support in a war is not "anti-Semetic"... as it makes absolutely no reference to any religious organisations. (see my bit further down)

@Elemi... oh, I didn't know Fuelmich had been arrested! Seems a bit contrived... but we'll see how it goes!

I did a quick read, and I'm slightly confused - one section says he was arrested in the German consulate in Tijuana, another says at the airport... if it's at the airport, then there'd be the issue of expedition (normally).

@Larry - so, any suggestions that an intelligence agency may commit a false flag event endangering the lives of supposed national allies is now a religious attack?? This would mean that anyone saying that 9/11 being an inside job must also entail that one is anti-Catholic or anti-Christian in general. The same with the Bay of Pigs incident. Or what about Mukden. when the Japanese did a false flag bombing of a railway in China ... was that anti-Shinto??

And, to the OP - yes, I would most definitely think such a thing would happen! (and, dare I say, with full complicity of the US military secret intelligence services!... Not sure about the Aussies - they probably get left out of the loop :p and will believe whatever they're told by the yanks)

@Elemi - last I heard (and, admittedly, that's going back many years), regarding the 7/7 bombing in London... the security camera operator is connected to Mossad (definitely owned by an Israeli company) and refused to release all the videos... not suspicious at all! (of course, if someone can provide evidence I'm wrong, please feel free to rip off my tinfoil hat!)

Fuellmich's arrest happened at the airport, because of an expired Id document, although the consul was waiting outsides to hand him a new one. Then he got expelled to Germany where he is in jail now. I am reporting what I heard about the stuff by Fuellmich's lawyer's statement and internet sources:
The allegations are somehow constructed by these lawyers: http://hafenanwaelte.de/ and seem to be more than fishy.
The two guys are co-founding members of a nonprofit company Fuellmich and Viviane Fischer founded to manage the C-Investigative Commission. The company has not been enlisted correctly yet and thus is still in pre-founding stage. Fuellmich and Fischer also founded another company later, so things are very unclear. They received millions as donations by their viewers. But who got the money? The old company, the new one or Fuellmich/Fischer privately? The other guys did not take part in the public committee hearings. Fuellmich and Fischer tried to secure that money, because the German authorities started to seize assets from the C-opposition. They bought Gold and Fuellmich took two private loans, secured by his house. All founders are enlisted in the founding documents as CEOs with sole representation. Fuellmich and Fischer both signed the Gold deal and the loan contract. The Gold is in a Safestorage and can only be taken out with the signatures of Fischer and Fuellmich. The House had been sold and the money got into the hands of one of the other co-founding lawyers by means of a real estate security charge which was somehow put on F's property after he had already sold it! So the guy took the whole money from the sale (a lot more than F. owes the company) from F by a (doubtful) action with help of a notary. And afterwards filed him for infidelity. Now F is in jail and cannot join the owner assembly and the other guys are in power and may want to change the constitution to for-profit. That would (in worst case) enable them to cash in on the donations. In the meantime they also demanded from Fischer to pay back all expenses the company made for the new studio, filmcrew, etc. And also the other money... Now she wishes Fuellmich would be free to help her -after before also claiming in public that F. had been infidel. (-What a joke!)
The public prosecutor's office claims F. has put money in his own bag by paying 25k€ per month to his own law firm for the office work they conducted for the n-p company. -We are talking about est. 900.000 emails and thousands of phonecalls which the committee received from the viewers who were seeking for help and/or wanted to give hints and information, etc.during that time. Normally this would be a private lawsuit (at first). But the attorney jailed him just for these allegations by his "partners".
Such things happen in Germany now. Another important critic, Michael Ballweg, who organised big C-demonstrations (even RFK jr. took part in Berlin) just came out of jail after 10 months investigative custody. The original charges were dismissed, the judge denied to hear exonerating witnesses several times and let him cuffed during the 6 hour trial without an ordinary resolution. Now they try to get him with tax stuff: "Unsuitable attempt to launder money" - all his assets are still confiscated. -He has also put more of his private money into the funding than he received back in donations.

Now THIS is quite... well... just going to say it has something to do with: Intelligence-Agencies...