Let’s make ourselves clear here:

Christ is the real deal.

And the “houses of worship” have nothing to do with Christ message, for Christ did not leave or intent to leave a “house of worship” behind.

In fact, the “houses of worship” work against His message because by “worshiping” anything but the God Within, man is abdicating and surrounding his Sovereignty and Free Will to the object of his worship.

P.S from JC: “Christ” is used for the sake of simplicity. It should be “Christ Consciousness”.
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The two projects go together because they are related to the highjacking and suffocation of Christ message, with the creation and sustenance of “the houses of worship”.

The shroud of turin is fake. It was created by technology, from the transfixion of the body energy of an assassinated/crucified mentally unstable person, onto the garment.

The shroud was created to be the proof and to reinforce the belief that Christ died on the cross for man’s sins.

Christ did not die on the cross.

The Popes are being interfered with by the same elements that created “the houses of worship”, and the shroud. Using their Law of Free Will will rid the popes of this interference.

Hey Szekely,

Thank you for your post.

This note is a quick, short reply to acknowledge your post. I'm very busy now with the COVID-19 virus, and I will probably give a full reply to your post late today or tomorrow.

However, your calling me a heretic is providing me some much needed comic relief. I've been laughing hysterically since reading your post.

By any chance are you christian?

I really appreciate this remote viewing exercise and all that has been presented. And thank you Courtney Brown for your excellent wrap up. It is time for us to determine our own fate and yet remember that we are a collective.

And it is collective "consciousness" that will free us from the long-time hidden control agenda's on this planet. Our consciousness, our knowledge of what we are truly dealing with and WHO WE REALLY are is essential to rising above and creating the reality we say we prefer.

Extra-terrestials are so involved in the creation, control and the experience of human on this earth. Some good like you noted and some with other more personal agendas. I am so grateful for the work and support of FarSight to help us navigate the true story of our history. Where we decide to go with it is up to us.

Hey Szekely,

Thank you for posting the Crucifixion Ruse. It is one of the few Farsight tapes that I have never watched. I will do that probably tomorrow. It seems to be a very good tape, at least from what Linda is saying above in her post.

Well, Christ consciousness and Christ are two different things.

Christ consciousness is the path, the way that leads man to the realization that he is ONE with God. That he is an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-encompassing Immortal Being; that he is God. Or for those who are not very comfortable with the word God: that he is Sovereign Being.

Chris consciousness is not specific to a person or to a religion. It is called Chris Consciousness because in our time, Christ is the man who is known to have come to show us how to walk this path.

Before Chris, others (ex. Zoroaster) walked this path. And more will come after Chris.

I have not watched the Crucifixion tape, so I’m not able to talk about Chris being a controlling person. But I’m sure that being a man he had good days and bad days.

Hi Van Damme, thanks for the clarification, I tend to agree with you.

Hey Zeke,

First, I am a heretic. Then, I'm that belgian guy! So what I am going to be next? :)

Listen, I just want to thank you for directing me to the Crucifixion Ruse. I've never watched this video, and this is really some amazing rv work that Daz and Courtney did. From my perspective, this is probably one of Farsight's best rv production.

And like Linda (above), I like the way that CB closes this tape. I specifically like his use of quantum physics, to explain how thoughts create reality, and how Chris could not prevent the crucifixion of the poor man that is also shown in the shroud of turin video.

And you were right when you said that Jesus was a controlling person. Daz definitely said that about him. In fact this is what he said about Chris:

- male subject, athletic, healthy.
- physically alone but with help in the background
- felt alone, removed from his family.
- focused, driven, enven harsh to some extent.
- organizer, planning something.
- reporting and communicating with others.
- hiding something.
- deceitful.
- non-emotional.
- goal driven.
- very intense person.
- focused on getting others to follow his orders, to satisfy his needs.
- likes to be in charge, in control.
- hiding something.
- there is deceit.

If the above words were used to describe a John Doe who lives two blocks away, then quite a few of these words and expressions would be considered negative; ex. deceitful, harsh to some extent, hiding something, likes to be in charge... etc.

However, if we know that these words describe Jesus, and put these descriptions in the context of him trying to achieve his goals, and in the context of the time period when he lived on earth.

Then, we will understand why he had to be "deceitful" by saying that he was not the one that the roman soldiers were looking for. And we will use the word cautious instead of deceitful.

We will also understand that to achieve his goals, he had to be harsh to some extent, focused, non-emotional, and in control... And we will use a softer language to describe him.

To clarify, I admire Chris as the teacher who showed us The Way but I don't worship him because he considered himself a man just like us, not a god. And he didn't want to be worshiped.

Hi Jean Claude, you wouldnt believe what you can get for expressing views like you did in front of christians. They would say noo, Christ has died for our sins, you are going to hell if you dont accept him as your saviour and dont repent. Some wont say much but in the back of their minds will hope that one day you will turn around, they would have an agenda attached to you.
I have debated a Christian for half a year, he is a great guy, who was paraphlegic and had a number of other issues that would kill him over time all by themselves. One day he had an OBE vision and he healed completely could walk again, stopped taking all medication /which fact was enough to kill him according to his doctors/. He recieved an ability to heal, to talk and get information from the "Father", and had regular visions. You can read his story here: https://www.oberf.org/dave_other.htm
It is all true, but he still couldnt let go of the dogmatic beliefes, he insisted that the Bible is the word of God, that Christ is the only way to get salvation, and avoid hell. He had a vision of hell. We debated this from many different perspectives, for half a year, I learned a lot in this time about the Bible and his faith, but I could not accept an exclusive way to avoid eternal damnation, no matter what kind of miracles are being demonstrated /impossible healing/, no matter what kind of threat/hell/ is being presented. i believe in Higher Self, I cannot prove its existance, so in a sense I have faith too.
I think Courtney sugar coated his findings because it is an emotionally charged subject for a lot of people. He wasnt even allowed to present it as a farsight project, had to create another website, and another youtube channel to show it.
Good luck with the Out of Body training, its up to you what technics you use but I think Robert Bruces /in Astral Dynamics/ are really good. Each person is different in what works for him, for me just invoking the violet flame for 10 minutes a day over time results in spontaneous OBEs.
Be safe.

....Alex Jones was right.

Man, I'm not sure what to say about Alex Jones. However, I see a lot of theatrics, and the only think that I can say is: "interesting".

https://www.oberf.org/dave_other.htm

Hey Szekel,

This is a long one!

I read Dave story, and I feel that it is a nice inspirational story. And I believe that Dave is very sincere in his beliefs in God.

However, I have a challenge with what he says in the he following sentence:

"I don’t have dates and times because God wants each of us to make a choice. A choice to accept God and Christ as our Lord and Savior or not -- it’s up to us."

There are two things that strike me as odd in the above sentence.

The first thing that strikes me in the above sentence is the identity of the god who is asking us to make “a choice to accept God and Christ as our Lord and Savior or not…”?

I can tell you with a great deal of certainty that it is not God (with capital G), the Supreme Creator of this universe, that is usually referred to as One Infinite Creator. Instead, it is a local god (with lower case g) who is positioning himself as God (One Infinite Creator). I have an idea who this god is and you probably know him too just by looking at the words that Dave used in the sentence.

And there are 3 main reasons why it is a god, not God (One Infinite Creator).

The first reason why it is a god but not God (One Infinite Creator) is that the Latter never presents Herself as God, or as our Savior. I don’t have words that can adequately describe God (One Infinite Creator) as I have experienced Her. All I can say is that She is an Awareness that does not have a need to be worshiped or to be called a savior.

The second reason why this is a god but not God (One Infinite Creator) is that in the process of Creation, God (One Infinite Creator) fragmented Herself into multiple Sparks of Divinity/God, and each Spark of God became a soul fragment that took residence in, or clothed itself with matter so that God (One Infinite Creator) could experience life in a multitude of densities.

So, by asking man to make “a choice to accept God and Christ as our Lord and Savior” would limit the number of possibilities that God (One Infinite Creator) would have to experience life in matter. And that would go against the purpose of Creation that is for God to experience life through as many experiences and Sparks of Divinity/God as possible.

The third reason why this is a god but not God (One Infinite Creator) is that Jesus did not come on earth to be man savior. Like Zarathustra and others before him, Jesus came on earth to show that man is more than his physical body, that he is an Immortal Being/God.

The second thing that strikes me as odd in the sentence listed above is the cleverly wicked way that the name of Christ is used to attempt to sway and trick us into accepting that this local god is God (One Infinite Creator), and at the same time neutralize Jesus’ message about the real nature of man.

Jesus' message to us is that "THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN" (Luke 17:20, NKJV); meaning that there is a Spark of God in each one of us. And this Spark of Divinity makes each one of us an all-knowing, all-powerful, and an all-encompassing Immortal Being/God.

In so many words, man is God but he doesn’t know or doesn’t believe that. So Jesus also came to show man how to walk the Way -- of love, forgiveness, compassion -- that would lead him to the realization that he is God.

The message that man is God was a serious threat to the controllers and power brokers who controlled earth’s affairs. And they decided to neutralize Jesus’ teachings and message using his own impetus, and popular movement. So, they turned him into “the savior who came on earth to save man for his sins”.

What sins? We dare to ask. Does man, an Immortal Being/God, needs to be saved? The answer is a loud NO!

The controllers and power brokers also knew that belief systems generate thoughts, and thoughts create reality. It was therefore critically important for them to control man belief system, by imposing one that negated Jesus’ teachings that man is an Immortal Being/God.

So, they developed powerful, opposing, and competing forces (houses of worship) that built and actively promoted the same fundamental core belief: that man is an unworthy poor sinner bound for eternal damnation. And that to be “saved”, he must get on his knees, beg for forgiveness for his sins, and worship an outside god, through this god intermediaries and representatives on earth (houses of worship).

The controllers and power brokers knew very well that by worshiping an outside god, man would automatically abdicate and surround his Sovereignty (Divinity) and Free Will to the object of his worship. That is why the houses of worship abound all over earth in one form or in another.

Let’s take a minute to think about it. Does man, an Immortal Being/God need to beg for forgiveness for sins that he absolutely knows nothing about? And does he have to surround his Sovereignty (Divinity) and Free Will to anyone by accepting to be saved or for worshiping an outside god? The answer is a loud NO!

My take on Dave story is that he is a honest, sincere person who unfortunately was duped and became a sales rep or a marketing agent for someone who is a local god but not Jesus or God (One Infinite Creator).

Dave was having some major health and personal problems, and he sent an OPEN CALL/PRAYER for help to the universe. And that was a mistake because when an open call or prayer is sent to the universe, anyone who matches the vibratory energy of the one who is requesting help can answer the call.

In Dave situation, a god answered the call and tricked him into believing that he was God (One Infinite Creator), and he mollified Dave suspicions by lying that Jesus and him are Dave's and our saviors. But it is not too late for Dave, when the time is right his internal programming will kick in and show him the Way.

In general, when we pray to ask for help, it is better to use the Law of Free Will to specify what we want, and what we don’t want. And it always works as long as what we want does not infringe on someone else Free Will. David could have directed his prayers specifically and directly towards Jesus, or God (One Infinite Creator). Or he could have qualified his call/prayer by saying for instance:

“I am asking for help from those beings/entities/life force whose work is always for the greatest benefit of all involved. This prayer is not addressed to those who mislead or take advantage of others.”

Another thing that I would like to add is that Jesus specifically, and One Infinite Creator do not want us to worship or mortify ourselves for them, as it is done in several religious traditions.

And we have to run away and fast from entities that pose themselves as god, or as our saviors, or that request to be worshiped. They are imposteurs.

Hi everyone. A few weeks ago I heard about an interview that came out on the "Wanttoknow" website titled "Hidden Hand". I was informed in another forum that this website is very credible and the owner is a very serious and reputable individual. Anyway, the interview reminds me a lot of what has been discussed here and I will post these same comments on other threads here because it kept my hair up as I read it. Judge it for yourselves.

https://www.wanttoknow.info/secret_societies/hidden_hand_081018

Gabe, thank you for providing the Hidden Hand Interview thru WanttoKnow website. I have to confess that I'm not familiar with the website but it looks good, and I like the fact that they have bolted the key points in the interview.

However, I'm familiar the HH story because it appeared in 2008 in ATS (Above Top Secret). It is about someone who claims to belong to the soul group from venus headed by Lucifer, that came on earth to provide the negativity (fear) needed to balance the positivity (love) that existed in Yahweh creation on Earth.

Apparently, this negativity was needed to create the polarity that would give man an opportunity to choose between good (love) and bad (fear). And consequently, progress or regress spiritually depending on whether a "good" or "bad" decision was made respectively.

In a nutshell, all the negativity that exists currently on earth is created and maintained by the 13 original families from venus. And they are the controllers and the true Power That Be (PTB) on earth. They are the real Cabal.

In 2018, a person named Eracidni Murev Te appeared in GLP (GodLike Productions) and claimed to be from a group associated with the venusians, and that worked as the recorder of the work and activities of the venusians on earth. This New Hidden Hand story supports the information provided by the original Hidden Hand.

The link of the New Hidden Hand information compiled from GLP by Wes Penre is provided below:

https://wespenrepublicationshome.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/the-new-hidden-hand-thread-2018.pdf.

My take on the two Hidden Hands is that the story of the 2 Hidden Hands is probably true. And while the New Hidden Hand tries to portrait his group in a more positive light than the luciferian group, both groups directly or indirectly support the soul recycling reincarnation operation on earth.

And the reason is simple and clear: man progression thru densities (ex from 3d to 4d; then from 4d to 5d...) is just a move to a more complex multidimensional reincarnation cycle.

Hi Jean-Claude. Go to the https://probablefuture.com/ website. Scroll down about half-way the page. You'll see a space to plug your name and email address and you'll receive the book in pdf. I don't mind emailing it to you as well, if you'd like to share your email with me. Let me know if you'd like to connect outside this forum.

Gabe

Gabe, thank you. I got it: "Remote Influencing." He must be for real because there is a chapter titled: The Kingdom Of Heaven IS Truly Within.

Thanks again.

Yes, Gerald is for real. In some other groups he was mentioned as having worked for the CIA in the 90's.