Nice to hear alternative ideas. I think it could be partly both ways.
Maybe someone snuck in and messed with the nursery?

I'm struggling to reconcile what seems to be genuine guidance from ETs with the fact that we apparently are trapped here forced to forget our past and true identity without the aid of advanced technology that could help us and the planet. If ETs had our interests in mind, then their existence wouldn't be a secret, and we wouldn't be forced to forget all the stuff we're supposedly learning. I think that guidance from aliens is either 1) a diversion or 2) a merciful way to help us "progress" while trapped here. That "progress" may ultimately be a way of putting us out of our misery where we transcend to a different reality altogether. The fact remains no ETs are trying to free us and help us regain our original identity, and they seem to view us as a threat of one sort or another. If we are all eternal beings, then their evolutionary time is irrelevant and a genuine comparison can only be made once we remember who we are. After seeing the movie on the death traps, I feel coerced in being here. Even if I came to Earth by choice, why can't I leave by choice? Even if we are a danger to the universe, then it should still be our choice to do what we will - we are a valid part of this universe too and should be treated as co-creators of it. I've heard Earth called a university, a hospital, a garden, a zoo, a test, and lots of other euphemisms, but if we are not free to leave with our past-life memories, live, prosper and be respected as equals, then humans should call it a prison. Courtney Brown thinks there are "good guys" out there that could help us, but why haven't they put their money where their mouth is and come to Earth to destroy the death traps at the risk of being trapped with us? When ETs fight, humans are collateral damage - it seems no one fighting for us. I've heard a lot of ET channeling by people who are kind, sweet submissive self-deprecating people who receive all sorts of messages from ETs, when they should be standing up for themselves and all humans and asking the ETs hard questions and demanding real answers. We really need to be holding the ETs feet to the fire. I have no sympathy or respect for beings who look down upon those in need and keep them at arm's length, unwilling to sacrifice in order to provide true help when it's needed. If Courtney is right, then we literally live inside Pandora's box trapped with maniacs, and we need to be looking for a way to break this prison open from the inside, without any ET's help.

Andrew Spencer wrote:
> why haven't they put their money where their mouth is and come to Earth to destroy the death traps at the risk of being trapped with us?

There is some evidence that they have.

For example there is that whole 'Messiah story' where an ET helped Moses break the Israelites out of Egypt, and then there is evidence of a plot that the same group flooded civilisation to remove the Atlantean era civilisation.

Here we are now, learning Tech, computers and Space again. But we don't have monsters mutants chasing us around like there were before.

From my perspective, we safely arrived in the future. :-)

Andrew,

I'm with you on all of that.

If the intelligent life that's out there, know we're prisoners and have done nothing, then we're sort of doomed to this reincarnation cycle for now. And if we can't look to them to help, then it's going to have to be us that figures a way out of here - to break free.

Don't get me wrong, there are people that would probably benefit from more life cycles. But when we see what's happening out there with wars and conflicts between different factions and witness some really mean ET's. Why are they free and we're not?

I'm sure the trap is no longer accessible on Earth or they'd risk a mutiny. But there's a chance we could punch out a crack in the matrix somewhere. It has to be possible, or is it?

I just try to remind myself that we're infinite beings. That this is just a moment in time. Maybe I was so bored with my life, that I felt I needed stimulation – drama. And so I chose Earth to fill that void. It feels that I've lived so many lives that I'm overwhelmed and so tired of this place. I just want to go home, wherever that is. Just not today of course.

Who knows, maybe the group at Farsight will lay the foundation for our path to freedom. Maybe together we can put out an SOS to our brothers and sisters of the universe. Perhaps if we ask for help as a group, they'd provide the much needed intervention.

Trisha Kaschalk wrote:
>then we're sort of doomed to this reincarnation cycle for now

Well what would you rather be doing?

It's the suggestion of the Yogi's and other spiritual Teachers that the idea of 'reincarnation' is a fuffed up interpretation of how physical reality works.

What we aren't told, and I have heard this mentioned is that we can reincarnate back in time, or forward.

So linear 'reincarnation' may be your choice, but it isn't how the Mechanics of Physical Reality works.

There is the idea of Time-Loops, The experience of upgrading oneself through repeating similar cycles, gathering new data as you go to ascend to another level.

You know, David Lyon, I really like what you said here: "I don't think that the 'Nursery' concept negates the 'Prison Planet' concept. You are just shimmering over the line about age."

Let's take a look at some of our parents. I was just talking to a friend earlier about how both of us endured severe negative mental, and emotional implantings by our mothers. Our fathers were away most of the time, but when they were around, what are they going to do? They have to keep the family safe and secure. These mothers of ours, grew up during world war 2, or the effects of it afterwards! Seeing the damage is not fantasy or only, as some say, 'imagination,' we have to recognize that the beings out there have also been fighting a lot of wars, for a long time, to try to protect their freedoms. Remember it was said that the Lyrans did NOT develop or build weapons of war, because they thought everyone else was as peace loving as they were. But they found out that there were psychopathic derelict murderers out there, when they themselves got attacked, and through that experience, they had to figure out that they couldn't only just keep running away, but they had to DO something about the situation...and therefore, they eventually developed some weapons systems to prevent those murderers from constantly invading their homes/planet systems.

So you see, we have it, right there! These beings are just like us, in so many ways. We have to think realistically about everything. We need to become psychologically fit, meaning, to study what occurs in our selves, when under the pressure of the horror and crimes they've put on us, and what occurs in our selves and the entire community of positive love oriented beings, when we put our Hearts and Minds together, to unite against an enemy whose only desire is to destroy all good and uselessly turn everything into a garbage dump. Yea see? We need to work together. Don't let the enemy fool us into thinking we are alone. That's what they want us to think. Their plan is to divide everyone from one another, so that it is easier to attack the smaller separated groups. But when we are joined through the invisible Spirit of our Hearts and Minds, then they can't control us or manipulate us anymore. We now have to do the work, of connecting to our own self first, and then to others. The Soul and the Spirit do the rest of the work that we ourselves as a conscious being cannot do. So trust your inner Helpers...until we can become entirely whole and realize we are our Soul and our Spirit.

I've heard if this and I just pray it's not true. I love the movie Matrix, but the more I try to give this idea credibility, it freaks me the hell out.
I can't fathom that we don't continue on after death. Maybe it's our ego that tells us that we must be more important than that.

The problem is that this theory is difficult to find holes in.

In an infinite Universe, why wouldn't (let's use the word) a Troll/parasite/whatever, take over a pond, valley, realm or Solar System and then feed off the passers by.

An example here: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2014/oct/15/poo-power-renewable-energy-kenya-slums-biogas

That is one way.

The Heart has many mysteries. In fact, science does a really poor job of explaining it's function using Mechanical Engineering terms.

The description of the Heart also an electromechanical device connected to others does a really good job of explaining "what you feel" at a gathering in a large crowd of people. Something I might add is under attack in our Society as we know it.

Can Electromagnetic Energy be harvested? Science says yes.

- https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/energy-harvesting

"Energy harvesting (also known as energy scavenging) is the conversion of ambient energy present in the environment into electrical energy for use in powering autonomous electronic devices or circuits. Whilst it is identical in principle to large-scale renewable energy generation such as wind turbines, the amount of energy produced is much smaller, being typically tens of micro watts to a few watts."

So with a few billion people, being able to harvest their "heart energy" really only depends upon knowing the resonant frequency of the electromagnetic vibrations.

We already know the concept, it's like setting up a "free toilet" in a slum and then waiting for patrons to arrive and figure out how to use the facilities. Take a little bit or a lot depending on what they feel like contributing.

Wow. Awesome! Thank you David Lyon... I've just checked it out, and I'm buying that book, Humans food for Archons, if we stay ignorant that is. When we get informed, and receive the knowledge that everyone has, and has been sharing, whatever way they share it, well...that is, those who are in tune with their own self and their life, then we are learning and finding answers. Let's put the answers to work. We must start putting our "EFFORTS" into the areas that will benefit us, and not allow that doubt, which the archons fly at us, to trip us up. Must stay firmly in the foundation, connected to our Heart. I think that Earth is who is actually behind the Kundalini thing. Because the Kundalini wisdom 'snake' comes from the foundation and goes UP...up our spine, meaning all of our sympathetic and what ever else, nervous system. Which then affects our mind as well. The enemy, on the other hand, attacks us from up above. They directly go on top of our head, where you can feel their presence. Some have said, who meditated and didn't have a clue about the dangers of evil forces out there, that they appeared as a light, inside their minds eye, and they could feel the pressure above their head, and that when they "allowed" it in, then it forced its way into the head region, and went all through the body, infiltrating it. One guy was lucky enough to have realized that this was a negative force, so that when it was starting to make its way into his body, he worked SO hard, and forced it out of his body. He said he was shaking and sweating afterwards, but was so glad because he removed it from him.

So yea. The Kundalini, I feel, is from Mother Earth. Whereas their, the enemy's shit, is from the interference and attack at the brain level.

You know? I just remembered something. In the Reptilians video, was it Aziz Brown, yes it was, who said that he saw those two guys that looked like blond haired "men" torturing and cattle proding very viciously, a blond lady who earlier looked so angelic and sweet. But when he inquired further into that situation, he found that those two blond men were possessed by two severely ugly death warmed over, looking negative aliens. THEY were who were doing that to the angelic like lady. Ya see?

I just started reading this book by Dennis Nappi II, "I Am Human Food for the Archons," and I thought to myself, we need to find a way to stop feeding them so that they starve into nonexistence. I have many Ramtha books that JZ kindly allowed him into her body so that he could show us how easy it was for a person to be possessed, but that he did it in order to help us, to teach us, to show us that not everyone is here to help us. Ramtha said that we are addicted to our emotions and to our "surface" selves, instead of being interested in objectively looking at things so that we have a multidimensional view in order to have more choices from which to choose a solution to a problem. He said that we need to become aware that we are not advancing when we stay addicted to our emotions. So, here we are in the Aquarian age, which the sign of Aquarius shows us is more stand-offish, meaning it doesn't like to get emotionally immersed in situations, but stands back from it to observe, and is why it is known as the "scientist" of the zodiac.

Well, I thought that, if we could help to bring knowledge to people that they are addicted to their emotions and that by being in that position, they're feeding the Archons, enemy of existence, then perhaps people could learn to shake up their views in life, to pull away from a "personal" reaction, by not allowing ones self to become indulged in their 'reactions' to life around them until they are blindly immersed and unable to help themselves or get extracted, if we can help people to see that they need to become objective, by stepping back from 'personal' responses, then we could stop feeding the Archons, and like don Juan of Carlos Castaneda books says, finally get our Awareness/Essence to grow back to full height, instead of being like a pool around our feet (which makes a person overly drama oriented, without any realistic sense as to what they are involving themselves in).

Maybe that's why Trump and the Military that works with him, are handling the situation the way they are...because if they somehow allow people who are blind in their 'personal' view of things, suddenly be emotionally affected over-much, then they might end up feeding the Archons who we are fighting against, and give them more power, which makes it more difficult for us, then. So to keep the playing field healthy and clean, as best we could at this time, the people are being trained to think with their objective reasoning minds, rather than reacting like the possessed mind controlled so-called 'democrats' and some of those in power positions (also possessed) are behaving.

Do you notice how when a person holds a belief without having any objective view in life, they hold onto that belief to their death, even irrationally, even when someone had made a mistake, they would fight till they're dead, just because someone made a mistake. That's the work of the Archons, setting up belief systems and driving people through their 'personal' emotions. That's how they feed.