Missing 411- David Paulides Presents Missing Cases from FL, UT, MI and WA

I have a great respect for the work of David Paulides. I have been following his work for many years, read his books and watch his videos on Youtube religiously. I am interested in Missing Person Cases, and I am interested in the collective circumstances of the 411 cases of Missing persons that Mr Paulides documents.

In a recent Missing Persons video, David Paulides gave examples of 3 cases where people were found/located through the dreams of another person who was totally unconnected to the missing – there was no association between the Missing Person and the Person who sensed/dreamed where they were located.

On the fourth example, of Missing Person Myrtle Nason - Florida - Missing April 13, 1983 - Mr Paulides recalled from the reports that Myrtle was found alive due to the psychic dream abilities of a woman who did not know Myrtle.

The reason though for this post is what Mr Paulides said after that in the video regarding Remote Viewing and its use to find Missing Persons, and what he thought of Remote Viewers – and it was damning.

It is not the first time that there has been mention of the use of Remote Viewing regarding missing persons from Mr Paulides – there are at least 4 occasions (that I’m aware of) where the subject, specific to Remote Viewers, and physics (to some extent) have been mentioned and discredited – and he himself has had the personal experience of interacting with these people, so his impressions are valid on a personal level, though I believe there may be some resistance or bias towards these skills due to the lack of information.

But he is not alone in his opinion. I get the impression that the only way Remote Viewing would be accepted by some as a method to include in a search, is to find the person – being close is not good enough. Remote Viewing information that flags and describes key areas of potential search locations - by deduction, that are not specific - are classified as unreliable or unworthy of inclusion in an investigation.

But David made an interesting comment at the end, and it reminded me of the contact that PrinCess experiences, and her telepathic communications with others during her Remote Viewing Sessions.

I have so many thoughts on this topic, I think its worthy of a discussion.
So here is what was said -
You can watch the full video, or this part of the story starts at approximately 43:00 minutes – or read the transcript – or both.
Video is here:

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The Transcript is here: David has been talking about the psychic/dream phenomena, and how is it that it has found people…
David Paulides -
(43:02) … “now I’ve given you cases where there's no way this is happenstance - this is luck that these people are found by these individuals. There's something else going on that is very intriguing to me. And what I go back to is if there's another entity that's taking these people, is that same entity then giving it back through the mind of some innocent bystander? And how is that bystander even chosen?

The other part of this, and I’ve said this a hundred times, but I keep having to say it - Remote viewers. Everybody says, ‘well Dave why don't you work for them, and they can find these people for you?’
– Uh, Negative.

I've worked with some of the most famous Remote Viewers in the world - one specifically said “oh I found this person Dave” – ‘yeah’, I said ‘oh okay, great’ and didn't say anything, and left. Well, I called this missing person's wife - and this is one of the most famous report Remote Viewers in the world - and the wife said

‘Dave, stay away from that man he's a shyster, he's a liar, he didn't do anything to find my husband. He lied to the press about helping. He didn't do anything. Stay away from them and be careful’
All righty then.

And then during my search to understand Remote Viewers I did a very extensive search trying to see if they've ever found anybody, and friends, I can't find anybody found by a Remote Viewer! Sorry, just the facts. I've told anybody out there - I started saying this about seven years ago –‘ if you're a Remote Viewer and you can go find a body for me, I will make you famous, I will’.

Do you know how many people have contacted me since I said that? None. So, I don't care what you say about Remote Viewers, there’s something about missing people where they're not very effective. Now I’ve sat through some conferences with some of the most famous, famous, famous, Remote Viewers in the world, had dinner with them later, and I thought that the stories they tell / they told / were unbelievable, they were great, but never could be substantiated. Now let me say something, these people may have abilities but one thing they haven't done is they haven't found a missing person. And if you have special abilities why not use those special abilities to help people in great need when somebody goes missing and you have that window of finding them alive and you were a remote viewer who had all these skills why wouldn't you step up and use those skills to find this person. I never hear them doing that so my frustration with them is pretty high. I know they all like to sell their classes, and some people think that they're really, really, good - they might be, and I’m sure they're really entertaining - but in my world I only care about one thing - facts and results. So Remote Viewers… hmm

Psychics, I'm sorry, I do think that there is something to certain psychics. The psychics I have talked to have all stated that we all have this ability, but we just have to teach ourselves to use it in the right way. Well friends, I’m obvious - I don't have that ability. Ben and I always used to talk about that pineal gland and how it calcifies over time and how if we could get rid of that calcification that may open up that third eye force to be able to look out and see without our eyes. It was always something that we enjoy talking about. But I do believe that people have been found through dreams, psychic connections - I just gave you four and I’ve given you three or four others in other videos that I’ve done. I did this for a specific reason.

Now these cases when I did the research on them, didn't fall into the many of them didn't fall into the classic 411 scenario, they all had the elements though. Now the boy being found with the gunshot wound obviously accidentally self-inflicted, uh the man the boy found in the sand dune - gut tells me that he was probably digging a hole like boys doing it caved in on them and killed him, but too much weirdness going on with a lot of these cases. And I would probably say that in the future I'm going to use a profile point as dreams playing a role in finding the body - the reason I say that is it's so unique. And when you look deep into those cases there is a thread of 411 in all of them.

So what is the catalyst for the dream to happen or the psychic connection to happen? What is that? Is it the person's soul reaching out to to contact somebody out there, and somehow or another that soul connection is made? Is it God or a heavenly form saying, ‘hey we need to have pity on the parents we need to find this this person's body, we need to help them live’ and they reach out to somebody for that connection? So, is it the person somehow reaching out in their soul? Is it a heavenly body somehow reaching out? Is it something else? And when I say something else let's use the ant farm scenario.

Let's pretend for a second, we are the ants in the ant farm here on earth and the people that monitor us see that we die or we are about to die, and they want to see the emotional play out of somebody having that vision or having that dream and going to get the body. I know that sounds crude, but I think we have to think outside the box. We have to understand all of the various possibilities and then somehow use analytics to coordinate down to what could possibly be occurring. What if we had the ability to trigger a dream to find somebody, and if we understood how the dreams come to us or why the dreams come to us, in turn maybe we could trigger that mechanism to find somebody.
You may say ‘well Dave you're really nuts’ - well I knew that but - I think we have to have to start looking at these things. So, I appreciate you being here I want you to walk away and think about this…
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So what do you think?
How can we better apply or communicate Remote Viewing in regard to investigating Missing Persons Cases.
Thoughts, opinions, examples, cases, rants - all excepted.

Hi Michael -
at the risk of repeating myself about Joe McMoneagle, he has claimed to have contributed through Remote Viewing to missing people being found, and has also said he made a good living from it - not that that is anyone's business -

As for the Cabal - what if I proposed they have their own Remote Viewers, or they can just access the data on most of us technologically - as we can - and what if this is how they work and constantly shuffle the board and rig the game because they use skills that determine and outline the many possibilities ahead.

But, I'm not talking about the take-over of the world - I'm asking about the use of Remote Viewing as a contributing tool in the investigation of finding Missing people.

Psychics have a good record of finding people - a documented account of finding people.

As for the people David Paulides mentioned - people who have dreams about the Missing people - their contribution doesn't require a a chain of protocols to get very accurate and substantial results. As mentioned, some Dreamers have no connection or knowledge about the Missing person, nor are they voluntarily asking for information to help the case.

Forensic Astrologers also have a good record contributing their calculations to finding Missing people.
There are a many pseudosciences that have a better reputation than Remote Viewing has, to find Missing people.

I am also not just talking about blind controlled chain of command clinical scientific type Remote Viewing - I am talking about the many aspects of Remote Viewing, the many ways people use and practise Remote Viewing - even using their additional inherent skills - such as PrinCess with her telepathy.

As for the 411 cases, often the Missing person is not found in the initial first or following searches, even after searching an area over and over, these Missing people are not physically in the locations - yet they are found there some time afterwards.
There are a couple of points here where Remote Viewing could help on these cases - especially if the body is being abducted, cloaked, time altered, or there is some other reason for this pattern that has not yet been explained - I see potential beyond the standard 'show me the body' scenario.

I have had experience with this happening - using Remote Viewing as a basis for looking for a Missing Person - additionally using other skills I have, and being within 50 metres of where the body was found, and yet the body was not there at the time of the search - it was found a few weeks afterwards, and was not accessible to find in the location as it was on the side of a cliff with a 400 foot drop - yet, I was at the place of the event. And to add, there were over 1000 search and rescue professionals searching at the time looking for this person at the initial stage.
I actually met David Paulides to speak to him regarding this search, but it was at an international conference, and it was the worst time to pick to try and explain anything. It was a case he was familiar with but at that time, David Paulides was not keen to consider (at all) the possibilities of a search that was not officially conducted, but instead spoke to people who had worked on it in the capacity of 'true' search and rescue. So, I kept my data, and moved onto another case.
Mr Paulides has since expanded his views and thoughts on people being found by other than 'official' searches, such as he has said in the dreamer/psychic video. I have a half written letter that I started to write to him a couple of years ago outlining my thoughts, which I still might finish and send, but beyond that I now think that maybe Remote Viewing could help with the hidden aspect of the 411 cases - but its a discussion, not a lecture - so I'll bow out now and come back later :)
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Hi Michael -
I think the cases that McMoneagle worked on were political prisoners in Lebanon? Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I remember seeing and reading through some of those files in the FBI archives online. I think he mentioned a 50% find rate - might have been on the interview with Daz at RemoteViewed.

As a side note - it has always been a contentious issue for some, when people earn money from any type of predictive forecasting - whether it be psychics, astrologists, tarot and oracle readers, mediums, channellers, clairvoyants, remote viewers, futurists... There will always be the high end earners in these fields from all over the globe.

The other thing is where are you getting your results from to say it doesn't work or it works poorly?
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It's like trying to explain where the needle is in the haystack.......a very large haystack. "It's in this corner over here surrounded by all this hay"...........okay........that's 100sqft of hay! Trying to pinpoint someone's location within a few feet in the middle of the woods that stretches for hundreds of miles is daunting. I think RV can explain the "why" and "how" with great detail but the specifics of "where" especially in a dense forest is where RV hits it's limits.

If it was in an urban setting where there are clear and definitive lines, markers, etc., pinpointing someone's location may be easier as there's a some reference you can revert to. A dense forest is just that, a dense forest. That 10sq.mi. looks just the same as that 10sq.mi. Everything looks the same so where is your reference point? RV is a tool and not the be all, end all. I think this is one application that RV will not excel in unless a new protocol is develop or a natural progression and evolution of this technique.

@ Vong Vang - I understand your haystack analogy - you have a definite parameter or target area.
Which tools or skills for which application. If it was possible to be at the location, and it was about finding a needle, I'd use a magnet.

If the location is not accessible, and the target area is known – it can be remote viewed. You can narrow it down by textures, smells, temperature, colours, sounds ...
A dense forest also has markers or indicators of significance which can be used to narrow down a possible location that may imply a clue is available.
It may not be the person – it may be something that leads to finding the person or add to the investigation story.
In the case of 411 Missing Persons, as I mentioned, often they are not in the location they are found at the time of the search.
There are many points of reference which could be used to Remote View.

From a 'Reverse Speech' perspective, David Oates has been able to find very specific information from interrogation interviews he was given that led to the discovery of a gun in the cellar of a house that was the murder weapon. On his report, the authorities felt confident enough to get a search warrant. This led to his conviction and sentencing of that individual. I sent an email to Dave Paulides on the subject of one of his topics of discussion, namely the 'mad cow' like disease sweeping the national wildlife in Canada and moving into the US. I reversed his musings and it proffered some interesting information, information that I thought would be valid enough for him to follow up on with me. Alas that was several months ago and I have had no response. Some of our disciplines could work really well together if we spent the time to really investigate it and find a way to work together.

If you think about it, there is not a lot of difference between a really gifted psychic and a remote viewer. They are both using their spiritual abilities to see beyond the "here and the now". Just because Paulides has not met any good remote viewers, doesn't mean anything.
Remote viewing is real, I've done it, and I've seen it done, live. Finding dead bodies takes a certain type of person and a great deal of fortitide. The people that CAN do that are uncommon - those will are capable and willing - are VERY RARE.