Could it be this simple? Courtney says that one of the biggest concerns coming up is nation leaders signing agreements with our captors, representing us. I don't want to give consent to anyone signing on my behalf. So what about something like this?

***

I was born _birthdate_,
My given name is _name_,
My signature is _sign_,

I do not permit ANYONE representing me in ANY affair without my express written permission by my own written words, in my own signed writing, for that sole individual named for a timeframe not longer than the year I sign and until the end of the year.

I write this in plain English, no legalese.

***

If millions of people were to sign such a document, even variations of the same, then how could it be argued that the national leader is legally representing them, by signing a treaty with other ETs?

I mean, how complicated does it need to get? Is that not an indication of free will? Wouldn't such a statement logically eliminate their representation? All comments welcome. Thanks.

In natural law, a contract signed without informed consent is void.

Example: You make a contract with someone to take care of your car. That someone then sells your car without telling you. Is he allowed to do that?

The question is: What did you mean by "take care of"?

In politics, you have a contract with your representative, written in the constitution and code of law. Regarding that, under what circumstances is your representative allowed to sell you our your children into slavery?

If the so called free will ET's respect a secret contract selling you into slavery, they are not free will ET's.

It is that simple.

Interesting, Manuel, I'd like if you could elaborate. Courtney says our allies, if I can call them that, still won't act without our written will and somehow our captors have controlled us in terms like tye exact example you just described. They don't need us to really understand they just need us to sign.

In the brief statement that I wrote, do you see any loopholes other than the fact that everything I sign is null and void if I don't renew it every year?

I really am interested in loopholes. I also find the general masses wanting to wait for a leader to make a document for us. And I sit thinking "wait a minute why the hell am I waiting for someone?"

I should correct, it's not necessarily written will, but I would validate that as more easily verifiable consent.

I'm not sure I comprehend this thread much, if at all.

So far we've emerged at a point of difference between "what is written" and "what is intended". Presumably it emerged as the difference between "written stuff being law" and "oral stuff being law".

The difference here being "authority", a word derived from "author". So, with written law, you have a clear set of where the power comes from, in relation to whom and / or what. Current practice of law is based heaviliy on written law within the Anglo Saxon grouping, namely USUK aliiance of |FederalAmericanGovernment{ and {UK|Government/ENGLANDWALESS/COTLAND/NORTHERIRELAND}

Oral law, not being written down, counts more as hearsay, although there are some established precedents to help deal with verbal (should be aural) contracts and cases, for instance, verbal commitments to contract, and problems with telephone use and abuse on aural statements made by telephone..

I am not convinced either covers the case of a Head of State, who typically have completele legal immunity while serving as a head of state.

I am similarly not convinced that a law enforcer would care about civil law (consent, contract etc) being mixed up with criminal liability for criminal action (activities deemed as criminal). Criminal law typically has a greater priority than a civil case, in terms of decidin the order of processing of law ("due process") in order to obtain justice and recompense in the case of criminal and civil matters outstanding..

All very heavy stuff to deal with. I'm goint to re-read this thread and have a think, there's a lot going on here.

I'm not sure I comprehend this thread much, if at all.

So far we've emerged at a point of difference between "what is written" and "what is intended". Presumably it ermerged a the difference between "written stuff being law" and "oral stuff being law".

The difference here being "authority", a word derived from "author". So, with written law, you have a clear set of where the power comes from, in relaiton to what. Current practice of law is based heaviliy on written law within the Anglo Saxon grouping, namely USUK aliiance of |FederalAmericanGovernment{ and {UK|GovernmentENGLANDWALESSCOTLANDNORTHERIRELAND}

Oral law, not being written down, counts more as hearsay, although there are some established precedents to help deal with verbal (should be aural) contracts and cases, for instance, verbal commitments to contract, and problems with telephone use and abue on aural statements made by telephone..

I am not convinced either covers the case of a Head of State, who typically have completele legal immunity while serving as a head of state.

I think we all agreed to some form of Terms and Conditions on iphones and free apps so you better start reading the fine print

Thanks everyone for your input. I'm going to take the original post to a conclusion. I'm going ahead and making a basic pdf template with these words. And I'll just sign it and see whom else does.

What I'm thinking might help is sort of a registry that holds all of these. Very basic black and white scans will do, no need for elaborate setup. Publically available. I imagine just getting it emailed is enough consent to show that they want it held public. Especially if there's like a basic website where you just submit it and it sits there for as long as the website exists.

If anyone thinks this is not a workable idea, please let me know. Thanks.

@Tazz: Sorry for answering late. I will elaborate.

In natural law, everyone has the right to change his or her mind at any point in time. Thus, everyone has the right to break an already signed contract. The consequence of breaking a contract is not that it's not right, but that it's negatively affecting the reputation. Therefore, it is wise to stipulate a cancelation period, compensation and so on. A contract without a possibility for cancelation is not a contract at all.

Also, in natural law not saying anything means "No". So you don't have to declare anything at all. But: If you already signed a contract stipulating other rules, a third party doesn't know your motivation. Maybe you don't understand natural law or you don't want to follow natural law.

People who benefit from you not understanding natural law are exploiting you.

Regarding loopholes: A loophole doesn't turn a wrong into a right. People who respect free will would not benefit from your unawareness. They would try to understand you und talk about what you really want.

"Courtney says our allies, if I can call them that, still won't act without our written will and somehow our captors have controlled us in terms like tye exact example you just described. They don't need us to really understand they just need us to sign."

You can have it both ways, but it's important what you sign.

The society of humans on Earth is paradoxical. There are constitutions and human rights declarations banning slavery. But humans also sign that governments are allowed to collect taxes by force, which is violating the principle of ownership. The government is democratically allowed to violate the physical integrity of anyones body. This makes the government a "predator" on behalf of the people.

The real free will ET's don't know what you want. We would prefer you understand what you sign.

Hi Tazz.

I don't think you need to do it as a PDF... a simple online file should be enough, where you insert relevant details (be careful with what's put there, because it would then target people). Probably just name, city, state, country should be enough. Make it into a database, so that it's easier to send to people (link) rather than PDF.

You could do it as PDF, but that's going to take up a lot more space if you're thinking that each and every individual PDF is going to be stored with those details (given the number that we'd presume would be needed for this to work).