I enjoyed listening to this interview.

I have some questions. Harvey isn't getting in to how the masses will receive Disclosure -- in this case, presumably "Catastrophic Disclosure". For leaders to be mobilized toward the Good ETs and, subsequently, the masses, there needs to be this type of incident or action.

When we talk about a "hot war", I presume this means with ETs out, visibly in full force... that is, not cloaked and not using people to do shootouts as has been rumored about World War II.

One begets the other. At least, that's the hope. But we are in a stalemate until this "Catastrophic Disclosure" is achieved. I also presume there is a reason that Harvey did not get into specifics about this. But that is a very significant issue.

There will never be government disclosure. Never.

What would they say? We are helpless pawns in the battle between the good ETs and the bad ETs.

There is no upside for disclosure.

I read the transcript... much faster.

What's being suggested lacks so much logic and common sense. (not the first time I've suggested this).

it also goes *directly* against what Harvey has apparently said before - "we can't show ourselves or it will turn the cold war into a hot war - and we would lose such a war in this solar system".

If Harvey now says that they're ok with coming out after a few wars happen, and then having a shooting war in the skies above, then there's logically no reason to not coming out now, and 'forcing' disclosure to happen, such that the wars on Earth don't need to escalate.

Honestly, I'm reminded of so many religions, and so many predictions, and so many ways to keep people trapped and ignorant... that is - there's always an out.

"we can't show ourselves or it will turn the cold war into a hot war - and we would lose such a war in this solar system"

Harvey never said that, it was Courtney's interpretation.

"If Harvey now says that they're ok with coming out after a few wars happen, and then having a shooting war in the skies above, then there's logically no reason to not coming out now,"

Well, not long ago, I would have agreed. But he said one thing, namely that the context of this war is much greater than just Earth politics, and we don't see it. How do you know what happens out there? What happened within the last 6 months? Maybe they where able to secure important supply lines. Maybe there was a technological breakthrough. Maybe... you get the point.

I still don't trust Harvey, because he's just a guy telling us things that don't have to be true.

But if it's true...