Context:

➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/74069-bad-ai-is-it-nero-rv#post-423655

I decided to put my response in a new thread so we can focus on how loosh actually works, what negative energy actually is, how they are able to feed on it, and what they can't feed on.

@Nancy:

"LOL Manuel, you are funny....I feel your energy wanting to fight fight fight....got to be right,"

There's nothing wrong with wanting to be right.

"The game isn't for us, except for 'making the loosh', when you pick sides in a war."

Here's an example to make things clear:

An evil person breaks in your house and threatens you with a gun to kill you or one of your family. Which side do you pick? Do you say "I don't want to play that game" in that moment? And how will the evil person react? Will he leave because you say so?

Evil vs. Good is NOT a game.

"this game isn't really OUR game"

Exactly. That's why you have to defend yourself.

"and I wouldn't want to play this game....but we are the pawns"

You are not a pawn.

"We are pitt against each other, compartmentalized, recycled, born, learn, etc., lied to about why we're here."

Yes, but that's a fact. Ignoring it doesn't heal it.

"This is a game of souls, a realm of us pawns who thru trauma and negative emotions feed lower astral beings and keep the system going with our life force."

Have you ever considered that this could also be a lie?

Do you actually know what "loosh" is? They gave you a picture of you being a victim if you have emotions that enable you to defend yourself. The purpose is to sabotage your ability to defend yourself.

The truth is: If you feel a conflict through an emotion like anger, that emotional state creates "positive" loosh, not the negative form they are harvesting. But you have to be very careful, because anger can be distorted and abused easily by turning it into a petty form of anger, meaning you focus your anger on trivialities or even good people. That's why it's so important to be able to distinguish correctly between good and evil.

For example, I'm not angry at you for expressing a different opinion. That would be petty anger, and that petty anger would create negative loosh that could be harvested.

In contrast, being angry at an evil person breaking in your house and threatening you would be a positive form of loosh, because it enables you to raise the energy needed to defend yourself. They can't harvest that. But they can harvest the suffering of the person attacking you. For example, you could be successful in defending yourself, and the attacker could feel a form of hopelessness because his attack didn't work. But that's not your problem.

They feed on aggression, not you defending yourself.

That's why non-aggression is the only way to be safe from being harvested by negative beings.

See: ➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/74103-declaration-of-dignity

"The good side also kills 'for righteousness' and tells you to worship this god that sent his only son down here to be tortured and killed on a cross to save you and he's coming back to save you which is only a 'harvest' dequised as a 'rapture'."

Yes. That's why these people are not the good side.

"Have you ever seen the movie 'The Nines'?"

Yes.

"It's kinda like that. God (or fractals of source) playing a role here in this game place, playing several roles at once, but forgets who it is, the 7's are the NPCs who are just part of the program."

No, the 7's are the ones who forgot. Evil is telling you that they are part of a program, so you will dismiss them and their rights so they can never heal.

"All good and evil, is source creator, it's ALL part of it...so you can't say it can be gotten rid of or don't think it's not part of the source creator."

Here's a fictitious dialogue that explains it:

Soul: I want to know what evil is.

God: Are you sure? It will be really bad, I can't recommend it.

Soul: I'm sure.

God: Okay. I will put you in a world with built in potential of evil, and the souls are free to choose either good or evil.

Soul: How long will it take?

God: It will end when every soul chooses good.

@Nancy:

"I respect the rights of every one even though they are programs or organic portals"

A program or portal is not a person by definition.

"but most times they are the ones who don't respect others rights, they are aggressive"

Yes. The hurtful truth is that real people can be evil, even if they don't want to be evil. They are not programs. They are people who have been abused, too.

"Did I stop them from lining up and getting tested and jabbed or wearing a mask? No but they sure wanted everyone else to get it even if they had to hold people down and get it."

It's because they have been raised in fear. Most of them don't want to hurt you. They just don't want to get hurt themselves. It's an "eat or be eaten" situation, created by evil people who know exactly how to push the psychological buttons.

"I've tried to help them 'wake up', tried to show them proof, but they can't even look at it."

Yes. Because it would mean to go against the majority, against the state, against their own families. Most people don't have the strength for that, because they have never learned how to be courageous. They have been raised in violence, physically and psychologically. It's a prison planet after all. The authorities don't want courageous inmates. They want broken people, because they are easier to control.

"The 7's cannot ever be 'reminded' or shown because they are programs."

That's not true. They can heal, but we need to get rid of the death traps and the amnesia system, because that system is stealing the time they need to heal.

"If they think they are saved, then why would they fear death?"

Because they don't believe it either. The difference to people like you and me is that we are not afraid of speaking the truth.

"Yes, they feed on all emotion, positive and negative,"

No. They cannot feed on positive emotion. That's why whenever there's positive emotion involved, they try to monetize it. The money then acts as a substitute for loosh.

"Free will to choose, isn't really free will, because if you don't choose the right thing, you'll be punished, how is that free will?"

Free will doesn't mean that you won't get punished, because evil will always punish you for doing the right thing. You will never be free if you surrender yourself to the fear of punishment. True freedom means doing the right thing despite the possibility of being punished. That's courage. That's why defense is a right.

"These religious groups like the Vatican worship Lucifer, it's in our faces."

Yes.

"No one asks to experience evil,"

At least not forever. That's why I said: Good and evil are not the two sides of the same coin. The trick evil plays is to convince you that evil will always be there, no matter what you do. But that's a lie. What will always be there is the potential of evil. But if people choose to be good instead, the evil is not manifested. And that's the way out.

So, the actual experience is not to be stuck within an evil world – the actual experience is how to overcome evil.

"You think you are talking to God, like Neale Donald Walsh who wrote those books 'Communications with God',"

I don't think that.

"that he says we experience pain and suffering to make us stronger, and this is lies."

Yes. It's not the pain that's making you stronger. It's the decision to not accept it anymore. That's why you are right in rejecting it. But it's not enough to say so. You must be able to defend yourself, as long as there are evil people in this world. And the good news is: You are able to defend yourself.

"Ego is a program."

No. Ego is an experience. And you don't have to accept any experience that's forced onto you. So, there's a positive form of Ego – it's called self-esteem. It's the Ego that is saying No to aggression and violence.

"This whole reality is run by A.I."

That's another lie invented by evil. The purpose is to instill hopelessness – they make you believe that evil already runs the whole world, to make you surrender because you don't believe that you can change that.

"and Jesus being an ET and not a savior"

Correct. There is no savior. It's another lie by evil to make people wait, so they won't assume responsibility for themselves.

"But the God you speak to as your father and you believe you are Jesus the Christ, God incarnate doesn't resonate with me."

I don't believe that. For the readers, this has been clarified here:

➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/74069-bad-ai-is-it-nero-rv#post-423718

There has been a bit of semantic drift with regard to the meaning of loosh in the past couple
decades. I hadn't heard of positive loosh or negative loosh.

To Understand Loosh, one would have to start with
Robert Monroe's 2nd Book “Far Journeys” Chapter 12 "Beginning of Loosh"

Excerpt:
"Someone, Somewhere (or both, in millions, or uncountable) requires, likes, needs, values,
drinks, eats, or uses a drug (sic) a substance indent 'Loosh.'

Electricity, oil, oxygen, gold, wheat, water, land, old coins, uranium. This is a rare
substance in Somewhere, and those who possess Loosh find it vital for whatever it is used for.

Faced with this question of supply and demand (a universal law of Somewhere), SOMEONE decided to produce it artificially, so to speak, rather than search for it in its natural form. He decided to build a Garden and grow Loosh.

Prospectors from Somewhere ranged far and wide in search of Loosh sources and new discoveries were hailed with enthusiasm and reward.

So it was that SOMEONE and his Garden changed all this. Far off, in a remote area, he set to work on his experiment. First he created proper environment for the cabon-oxygen cycle, where it would flourish. He created a balance with much care, so that the proper radiation and nourishment would be in continuous supply."
--

It is a long, difficult-to-understand in one-reading parable.

--
From another perspective,
Tom Campbell proposes that Bob may have mis-interpreted this "loosh" experience which
(Monroe's) INSPECs, ("intelligent species") guides, communicated to him.
Some may recognize Campbell from his book "My Big ToE" (theory of everything) or from his working in standing up the Monroe institute in the early 1970's.

Tom C was on Jeffrey Mishlove and discussed this :

New Thinking Allowed
"Remembering Robert Monroe and Journeys Out of the Body with Tom Campbell, author of My Big TOE"

PS: Memorable quote from Bk II

[INSPECS]: The acceptance of pain (suffering) as a condition of joy
is the symbol of conflict within physical life existence.

@Nancy:

"and next you'll say this matrix is real too...this illusion is real, the programs are real...."

Are you real?

"then if all that were true, why do you think it's a prison?"

It's a prison because some souls – who I call the Fallen Ones – chose to turn planets into prisons because they hate this universe.

"All emotion creates loosh."

Yes. But not all are eaten. You have a very dark worldview.

"If you are referring to the manipulative and so called God that tells you that you are here to grow and learn, that's not God"

I'm learning and growing all the time. At the moment, I'm learning how to overcome a prison planet from the inside.

"I don't like being manipulated, do you?"

Nobody likes being manipulated.

"It's not so much anger as it's refusal to be lied to and manipulated."

But God does not lie to you. The Fallen Ones lie to you.

"Do you get a little angry when someone lies to you?"

Not anymore.

"Because it's an agenda to keep the construct going."

Yes, it's an agenda to keep the prison planet going. The goal of the Fallen Ones is to prove that Love can be destroyed by detaining, humiliating and eating beings who are free by nature. They do that because they believe that God punishes them by being imprisoned in this universe, which is not true.

➡️ https://freiemenschen.org/video/Mark-Passio_The-Worldview-of-our-Rulers.mp4

"all lies or 'untruths' will be exposed."

Yes.

@Nancy:

"I too couldn't believe there were souless ones. I too was of 'love and light' and if you do that, everyone will wake up and remember who they are and then you realize the game..."

You speak as if you already have proven that people can't be healed.

How much time did you invest?

Did you take psychological trauma and dissociation effects of the brain into account?

Did you take psychological and sociological effects of child abuse into account?

Did you take the "psi oppression field" into account?

Did you take the effects of the "death traps" and "amnesia machine" into account?

You are jumping to conclusions, because you started to speak the truth and people weren't ready to listen.

So, you are angry at people.

Because it's not easy to wake them up.

And this is where evil steps in and tells you: Those ignorant people, they are not real. You can be angry at them. You don't have to care for them. Just dump them.

Evil is using your disappointment against you.

To come back to how loosh actually works, here's how it goes:

Definition of loosh: A form of energy generated by ISBEs via connection to the source of All-Being.
There are two forms: Positive and negative loosh.

Positive loosh is generated through the emotion of joy, which is an uplifting feeling that is experienced naturally if an ISBE is bringing Love into the world.

Love is the expanding force of consciousness.

Consciousness is the unadulterated connection to truth.

Formula: Love = Truth

Examples:
- A husband loving his wife because she is honest to herself and to him.
- A mother loving her child because the child is a true reflection of God (concept of innocence).
- A scientist loving his work because he is searching for truth in nature.
- A musician loving her music because it's a true representation of her feelings.

Negative loosh is the opposite of positive loosh. It is created through the emotion of fear.

Fear is the contracting force working against consciousness and truth. It's what you feel if you don't want connection.

Important: Every negative emotion is based in fear.

Example: Anger, which is a positive emotion for the purpose of self-defense against an aggressor, can be inverted into a negative form of anger by making you angry at something or someone you fear. The anger then turns into a form of destruction rather than a force for ending violations and restoring rights.

Now, how do they actually harvest loosh?

What you need to understand is that the energy vampires actually want positive loosh, because it's the uplifting energy. It applies to them the same way it applies to everybody else. But, they can't generate it themselves, because they exist in a state of fear.

The problem: Positive loosh is free AS LONG AS you are in a state of love yourself. You can't steal it. You need to generate it yourself to get it from others (because its foundation is connection, not seperation).

So, the energy vampires need to generate positive loosh, but they can't do it through connection.

How do they do it?

Think about it: How do they feel joy? They feel joy when another being is suffering.

So, they need to generate negative loosh in others, which in turn generates positive loosh inside of them.

Examples:
- A murderer feeling joy when killing people.
- A liar feeling joy by telling lies that drag others down.
- A thief feeling joy when taking someone elses property.

Now you need to understand one more thing: Remember that I said they exist in a state of fear?

What is their fear?

It's simple: They fear people. That's why they can't connect.

Where does that fear come from?

That fear stems from Karma. The vampires – I call them the Fallen Ones – chose a life experience that consists of violating property (hunting others and creating suffering). They either believe that this violation can never be rectified, or they believe that Karma will put them into the position of their victims, where they don't want to be.

This is why they hate this universe. They fight Karma, because they see Karma as a punishment.

They are so invested in this belief structure that they don't see that Karma is not revenge.

Karma is balance.

So, how can a vampire be healed?

➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/74103-declaration-of-dignity

📕 The Moral Code
...
5. Principle of Restoration
An individual that ceases its aggressive behavior regains all rights.
Return is possible – provided it is genuine.

6. Principle of Reparation
Those who cause harm through their action bear the moral responsibility to make amends.
Reparation arises not from shame, but from connection.

Revenge will cause harm.

Forgiveness will cause connection.

➡️ https://freiemenschen.org/video/Doctor-Who-Truth-or-Consequences.mp4

Here's a recent example of how they harvest loosh:

➡️ https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-aid-gunfire-1.7544847

"Chaos erupted on the second day of aid operations by a new U.S.-backed group in Gaza as desperate Palestinians overwhelmed a centre distributing food on Tuesday, breaking through fences. Nearby Israeli troops fired warning shots, sending people fleeing in panic."

The desperation and panic is negative loosh, and the Fallen Ones feed on the joy they feel when watching the suffering.

That's why they create these scenarios in the first place.