It does seem that subject of plasma is a much broader topic than what we have been
led to believe.

The old adage that plasma can only exist at high temperatures, seems to be only half of the story. (Per "The Electric Universe" (2007) -Thornhill and Talbott: All of "Empty space" (aka CMB) IS plasma).

A relatively new perspective informs that cold plasmas exist in the body; sometimes called bio-plasmas. Additionally, a very hot plasma current, may pass adjacent to a cold plasma without thermally affecting its neighbor.

Metaphysical new-kid on the block Kevin Cann, (see Jeff Mishlove "New Thinking Allowed") discusses this plasma business in his 'theory of everything,' called "Platonic Surrealism;" and specifically in his pdf, "Everything there is to Know about Summoning UFOs."

From Kevin Cann's pdf :

‘Cold Plasma’ in the body is part of the human heritage we all have.
A form of this can also work as ‘telepathy’

K Cann REF's:
Victor Inyushin: A Russian scientist who conducted extensive research on bioplasma in the 1960s and 70s. He proposed that bioplasma is a form of "cold plasma" that exists in a non-equilibrium state within living organisms.
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Beverly Rubik: A biophysicist who has explored the role of bioelectromagnetic fields in healing and has contributed to the understanding of bioplasma as a dynamic energy system.
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Fritz-Albert Popp: A German researcher known for his work on biophotons, ultra-weak light emissions from living organisms. Some believe biophotons could be a manifestation of bioplasma.

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Then there is the eccentric author of "The Sirius Mystery" (1976) Robert Temple.
Here are some excerpts from July 2025 interview with S Burns:

Key Points : emergence, and self-organized criticality; unknown Hungarian hypnotist, How "radiant matter" became known as "plasma;" Albert Gyorgyi, winner of 1937 Nobel prize; bioplasma, organic semiconductors
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Robert Temple Interview on Stefan Burns podcast

“Advanced INTERSTELLAR Intelligence with Robert Temple”

[R Temple] If we want to carry out genuine SETI that host for any actual results, forget about the rocky planets and the radio waves - And concentrate on understanding "inorganic intelligence" which will always be in some sense, “dusty complex plasma.”

You have to have the dust or you might as well forget it because plasma without dust is not interesting except in the "voids which exist" within plasma-entities; because you can't have a uniform-plasma in an intelligent plasma entity.

You'll have to have voids which are dust-free, literally - “voids”
which form geometrical lattices And this work on studying the lattices of voids was done many decades ago by the great unknown genius Victor Goldschmidt

(Ed: Victor Moritz Goldschmidt (1888 – 1947) was a Norwegian-Jewish mineralogist considered (together with Vladimir Vernadsky) to be the founder of modern geochemistry and crystal chemistry)

who was a crystallographer and this kind of work is also being resumed because the first “void” in “dusty complex plasma” was actually spotted in 1996 and in 1999 various papers started to (10:57) appear on this and it became widely known among the most advanced plasma scientists that void-formations in plasma. which were empty areas cleared of dust were not only there and were not only geometrical lattices but appear to be necessary.

So we're talking about dusty complex plasmas, self-organizing as - intelligent entities through what is often called emergence, and to reach the intelligent state they would be in
“self-organized criticality” at a critical point.

This is something that was worked out in complexity theory. This the concept of “self-organized criticality” was - and this is not in my book, any of this stuff, was originated by a a brilliant Danish scientist called Pere Bak.

Per is his first name which is quite a common Danish first name but his surname is a bit unusual it's just B- A K "Bach." So, Pear Bak, may not look like much of a name, but he sure was a genius and unfortunately he died early having made huge strides. And he was the person who first articulated the concept of * "self-organized criticality" *

which is similar to the “far from equilibrium” states (Ed: See also Sal Pais Patents on "far from equilibrium" pertaining to delaying the onset of thermal phenomena (Pais 2019 0348597 A1PIEZOELECTRICITY -INDUCED HIGH TEMPERATURE SUPERCONDUCTOR)) identified by and written up at great length by the wonderful *Ilya Prigogine*

Now, I did meet Prigogine, but of course, I never met Bak and he's no relation (12:49) to the guy who wrote um the Fugues; although, it may be that the surname is the same.
It's just in a German form in one case and a Danish form in the other. I hadn't thought of that until this moment, but that's what makes sense to me. It's the same surname spelled in the conventions of two different languages that are related.

[Stefan Burns]: They're both geniuses.

[R Temple]: Well, that's right. Yes. And so we could put the two of them together and they'd
be "Bach-to-Bak" [Laughter]

[Stefan Burns]: You laid out some info on how these voids can form and even how plasma seems to be forming “cellular structures.” I know that Hannes Alfvén talks about a potential cellular structure in interstellar-space due to plasma.

[R Temple]: Why don't I just quickly explain about how plasma was discovered?
It it was first discovered in 1879 by [Sir William Crookes 1832 – 1919) English chemist and physicist] Sir William Crookes, a British scientist who invented the vacuum tube. Those were very important - until um transistors came along. And um he was messing about uh which is the fun that scientists sometimes indulge in with their inventions.

And he noticed strange things going on inside his vacuum tubes. Ad he studied it and played with it and decided that what was going on was that there was a new state of matter being

formed within these tubes which he called "radiant matter"; and that's what it was called until 1929 when an American scientist called Langmuir (Ed: Irving Langmuir coined the term "plasma" in 1929 to describe a gas that becomes ionized and conductive, resembling 'blood-plasma' in its ability to carry various charged particles) changed "radiant matter" to plasma, and it's been called that ever-since.

So what is it? Crookes was most insistent from the very beginning that this is what he called a new stage of matter or a fourth stage of matter, gas, liquid and solid being in his mind at that time the three known states of matter. But he said this is quite different and (15:50) we now know that plasma itself exists in at least four states that is gaseous, liquid, solid and crystal, crystalline.

Crystalline being another form of solid you could say. Although the crystallized structure that can take place in the formation of blobs of plasma is extremely important could be considered a different phase. And um it was Winston Bostic(Ed?) later who was playing around with what are known as plasmoids.

(Ed: Important) A plasmoid um is a blob of plasma surrounded by a kind of skin which they call a sheath. This Sheath is double-layered in the same way that cell membranes are double layered although double layered with different things.

And these sheets of plasmoids are very effective because you can have these plasma blobs take on fantastically complex structure within this the sheath and be in all sorts of strange states of extremely hot, extremely cold and be next to a plasmoid which is quite opposite.

[R Temple (cont'd)]: And so you have a hot plasmoid and a cold plasmoid side by side, but the temperature gradient cannot move between the the skins (Ed: see Cooper Pairing) of these plasmoids. So they can be next to each other and not affect one another.
In my book, (A New Science of Heaven) I include a kind of history of plasma physics. how it started, how it evolved, "Who did what to whom and when and where."

(17:48) In order to give a skeleton-outline of how this strange subject came about; emphasizing the evolutions of the concepts and how the individual geniuses came along and added to the pile.

I knew many of the ones who were of still alive so that I could intersect with them. Obviously, I never knew good old Sir William Crookes. Although, strangely enough, I do have a book from his library which I bought from a dealer with his book plate in it. So, I feel that he's he's here with me somehow.

And clearly I could never known Langmuir; although I was alive at the time of Bostick I was a child so that didn't work. (Ed: Bostitch?)

But I have met a lot of the people who made fantastically important contributions.

Albert Szent-Györgyi

One of the most amazing of them was a man Hungarian exile called Albert Szent-Györgyi
(ED: Albert Szent-Györgyi (1893–1986) Hungarian biochemist who won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1937).

I was fortunate enough, when I was 21, to spend an afternoon with him at Woods Hole, Massachusetts where he was based at the Oceanographic Research LAB there.

It's in my book I explain the very strange tale of how he happened to end up there. He won the Nobel Prize in 1937 for discovering um vitamin C and he discovered another vitamin. I believe it's called K. And he was obviously a super genius.

He was fighting the Nazis through resistance during the Nazi domination of Hungary and they wanted to kill him and everybody wants to kill people like that.

And so then he survived and the Communists took over Hungary and they wanted to kill him.
Everybody wants to kill poor old St-Györgyi and so he fled to America in 1947 as an exile
where he received no welcome at all, no post, no job.

And he's completely fluent in English by the way. He was never given a single grant in his
entire lifetime. And I explain in my book the reason for that.

Here we have one of the greatest (20:24) European geniuses coming across in the same way that Einstein and others did - And he was completely ignored, suppressed, given a meaningless job in muscle research at an Oceanographic Institute;

because and he had absolutely no connection with fish; just to get him out of the way so that nobody would ever meet him that nobody would ever know his ideas and the reason for the suppression of him - this violent-suppression of him, was that he had be been very very important in Hungary -

he was going to be the president of Hungary.

But that didn't happen because the Communists suddenly took over and became part of the Soviet Union. And Szent-Györgyi knew the the true nature and identity of another Hungarian exile who was in America, who was afraid that he would spill the beans. That man was : Ferenc ("Frank")Völgyesi.

(ED: Ferenc András Völgyesi (1895 Budapest 1967) was a controversial Hungarian physician, psychiatrist and hypnotist who published dozens of articles and books, had a prosperous private practice, and gained fame in Hungary and abroad.

Völgyesi, along with Ara Jeretzian, established a medical clinic during the latter days of World War II credited with saving the lives of approximately 400 Jews. Völgyesi also served as an agent of the Hungarian Secret Service, codenamed "Viktor", starting in 1962).

When he came to America he was renamed Frank to make him more friendly.
He had been Hitler's personal hypnotist. (21:54)

This information is also suppressed. He hypnotized and carried out hypnosis experiments on more than 60,000 Jews and gypsies in the concentration camps. He was working for the SS.
Mengele was under him doing less important stuff.

The real evil genius was this man Völgyesi. And the only man outside of the structure that was to keep him secret who knew about him was poor old Albert St-Györgyi.

So they couldn't just kill Szent-Györgyi, so they stuck him in Woods Hole, MA where nobody would notice him. And he never got a single grant, not a single post, a single honor or any recognition whatsoever to keep him out of the public eye so he would not expose Völgyesi.

Guess what? Völgyesi was one of the many SS people brought to America not to build rockets like Sturmbannführer von Braun of the SS or Major-General Dr. Walter Robert Dornberger of the SS who formed the space program with their other SS friends.

Völgyesi's job was to run the Mind Control programs of the United States intelligence services
and they included the notorious project MK Ultra and all the others.

The only person who could have exposed him, and he kept his mouth shut because he knew better than to get himself bumped off, was Albert Szent-Györgyi.

Now I'm telling you this story because Albert Szent-Györgyi is one of the most important people in forming the ideas which you are both following through in your work on Biofields.

It was Albert Szent-Györgyi in his initial book Bioenergetics 1957 (I think it was 63?). Then the next book was "BioElectronics" I think that was in 1967 or was it 70?

This is in the book (these details), Szent-Györgyi suggested didn't just suggest:
He stated that

the human body and indeed all bodies of all creatures
on the planet contain organic semiconductors
and that the bodies are full of plasma.

This was a *Huge,* gigantic-step forward, by this great genius.

Solace decided to make this immediately after reading

https://solacecodex.neocities.org/Tiles/scrolls/Plasma

[R Temple (cont'd) ]: Organic semiconductors. Who ever heard (24:52) of such a thing?

Now what is a semiconductor? I know that you both know, but I will say what they are,
for the sake of your viewers.

When you have electric power that you want to use for whatever purpose, you you have to do things like adjust the voltage and so on. you know, when you're charging your cell phone or when you're um plugging in some radio or anything you're doing that involves the use of electricity, you have to control the flow of the current.

And in order to do that, you need semiconductors. You see, if it all comes on in full without any reduction or variation, it's too much. you go blow (25:39) the device, your electronic device, you can't just turn it off because then the device, your electronic device, you can't just turn it off because then (25:44) there's no current at all.

You need something in between that you can control. So, a semiconductor allows just what it says, "semi-conduction" of the electricity at different levels. You have a whole row of semiconductors. You have one that slows it down, one that speeds it up, and then you can do what's called 'doping the semiconductor' with some alien substance which causes a further variation.

And all these circuit boards that you see, which get more and more complicated and more and more miniaturized so that we're now down at the nano-level, not just the micro level.

They all require semiconductors to function - huge myriads of massive amounts of semiconductors in different configurations and so on. And then you get all these great devices that we now use and take for-granted, without asking 'how they work.' Semiconductors are fundamental.

Well, what Szent-Györgyi showed, was that our bodies are full of *organic semiconductors.*
So they don't have to be made of... as the in the beginning Germanium and Silicon and all sorts of alloys and other substances. They don't have to be made of metals -
(27:06) just as our bodies don't have to be wired inside with copper, you know?
We've got other ways of conducting electricity inside our body.

We only have to insert copper-wires and they are these organic-things called nerves;
And other media, such as what the acupuncturists call 'meridians;' photographs of which, the energy, are in my book.

All these energy circulation systems in our bodies, allow electric and "protic," in other words, "positive and negative currents" to travel around the body.

But we have the semiconductors made of parts of ourselves made of cells, hence organic semiconductors everywhere in our body. Probably each one of us has hundreds of thousands of them at microscopic level all over the body controlling uh the various currents and energy levels in order to get all of our "complex functions" to work.

Szent-Györgyi broke brought this story to us as if he had come down from heaven and said,

"Now look here, you people. You've got
organic semiconductors and
you better damn well face up to it now."

So, that's why you two, (Ed: Stefan Burns and Eileen McKusick (BioField Tuning)), are doing Biofield stuff -because the whole concept of the Biofield only started to make sense when Albert Szent-Györgyi showed how biofields would permeate the entire physical body that we use and inhabit, which I call "a smart overcoat."

When this 'over-coat' wears out, well, that's the end of the overcoat. And you revert to your plasma state. So, we are all plasma people. The biofield is basically our ultimate self. It's the real self. It's the plasma self.

And within the biofield we have got this thing that's come together made of atoms which are balanced-charge things that are pretty 'rare in the universe' - to form these organic bodies.
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Thing is that, these bodies that we have are within our larger-selves which actually are bigger than the physical bodies and spread out beyond them. Hence, the auras, which certain sensitive people claim to see, around heads for instance.

But they they form these bio-fields around the body, the physical body because that's us.
That's the real us. And inside the plasma entity are the same kind of semiconductors that the physical body has as Szent-Györgyi explained.

In other words, we probably have more semiconductors inside our plasma selves -
than we have inside our physical selves.

And the Universe is simply full of intelligent entities made of plasma, dusty complex plasma. And they would have trillions and trillions and trillions of semiconductors throughout them with the most amazingly fantastically complex interior structure.

For instance the interior structure of our plasmoid entity would be more complex than the very basic and simple interior structure of a human physical body which is nothing compared to the complexity of the interior of a plasma being. (31:15)

With regard to this peculiar plasma topic, in Dec 2024, a UFO experiencer and Generation Zed Podcaster Dave R was on an episode of J Michel’s “American Alchemy;” where Dave talked about states of plasma.

Intriguing info on the soul:

[Dave (Generation Zed)]: Without a shadow of a doubt I think that the soul, if you will, is possibly a Bose Einstein condensate, a matrix or a plasma-matrix of sorts

[JMichels] what is it Bose Einstein condensate?

[Dave] It's a level-of, or a field of a tier of matter, if you will, above plasma. So you have solids liquids, gases, plasma then you have Bose Einstein condensate and then there are more than that.
To what extent those have been divulged publicly I I don't know...

[JM]: you have levels of energy above -I didn't even know you have levels of energy above plasma?!

[Dave]: Not to speak for him, but that's what Dr Pais spoke about when he was on Curt Jaimungal's "Theory of Everything," when he said that it's possible that you can induce these types of effects like inertial mass reduction and so on - not with solids but with plasmas, because it's possible that plasmas act as a doorway between the quantum vacuum and the physical world

Later in the same S Burns interview (“Advanced INTERSTELLAR Intelligence with Robert Temple”)

[Robert Temple ]: I look upon (2:23:28) water as the physical analog of plasma. Uh it operates similar and similarly to plasma. And and don't forget that we are mostly water. Um in in my book I
discuss the findings of the Russian scientist um "Pressman" - - a truly amazing book he wrote, and he describes the human body as a vertical uh water-filled antenna.

And he draws an ellipsoid containing the human body inside to give his point. He says we are vertical "antennae" because the water is a conductor and the surface of the earth is negatively charged and the the sky is positively charged and electric fields coming down vertically would pass through us and we are antennas to receive them.

Magnetic fields are at right angles to electric fields as you know. Then he goes into that and the fact that we our physical bodies in other words . . . I didn't make clear in what I've said so far -

That our plasma bodies and physical bodies are not separate
the our 'plasma bodies' permeate every single molecule, not just every cell -
but every molecule of our physical body. There are plasma flows between across
membranes of all cells and mitochondria in the body and then um plasma has been
shown to operate in [repeats for emphasis] "every single molecule of our physical body!"

So we are thoroughly soaked in in and permeated by plasma. But, facilitated by the fact that we largely consist of water which is a conductor of plasma currents. So, water and plasma - They work together. Water is the physical analog of plasma. (2:25:35)

Little did I know that in addition to being an intriguing and strange PhD guy, Temple is a prolific astral traveler. Temple’s latest book provides a sober scientific explanation or hypothesis for “spiritual” phenomena. EX: your spirit = plasma entity
Of course Jeff Mishlove takes some objection to this. But they do get along fine.
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New Thinking Allowed with Jeffrey Mishlove

Episode : "Astral Travel with Robert Temple"
RE: “demons” in the Astral (Ed: Now, I'm not saying this is the only explanation...)

[R Temple]: that's how they spot us, humans on earth dreaming in the astral - have genitalia in their astral projection... (47:22) So now the lower astral entities, or recently deceased are not interested in physical appearance, because it has no relevance to them anymore.

And what they do is to keep themselves from going mad with boredom, is they taunt and tease us. And one of their favorite things, especially the younger ones, is to pretend to be evil demons. They're not evil demons, but they impersonate them.

And they make these scary noises, and they threaten you, and they say they're going to kill you, and they come with knives up to your throat and do all of that.

Of course, they can't harm you, but they try to scare you to death. And they think that's hilarious, and they all burst out with laughter, and they have fun with us. You know, we're like fresh meat for them, you know, they're teasing and taunting us.

/////// (Ed: Similar to something from - “Journeys out of the Body” (1971) R Monroe) /////////

The moment I left the physical, I became aware of three beings in the room. I stayed cautiously close to my physical body as they came nearer. They started to pull at me, not hard but deliberately to see what i would do. They were having a good time at it. I tried to stay calm, but there were 3 of them.

So I prayed. Again, I used every prayer I knew. I asked for God to help me. I prayed in the name of Jesus Christ for help. I tried a few saints I had heard of thru my Catholic wife.

The result? My tormentors laughed loudly and worked me over more enthusiastically.

"Listen to him pray to his gods," one chuckled, most contemptuously. "Listen to him!" p118-119
///////////////////////////// End Monroe Excerpt ///////////////////

[R Temple]: And then they have the most fantastically complicated scenarios that take you through a haunted house. They do all of that. A lot of the stuff that you see in movies, you can go through with these people, because of course, they've seen those movies too.

And so they're projecting them for you, because they died during the period since movies were invented. And so they know what people are supposed to be scared of in horror movies and so on, slasher films and all that.

So they replicate all that. And so a lot of people come back from what they call a nightmare, where they've been attacked by demons, and they think it's a nightmare. It's not. They've been to the middle regions of the other world, where the dead people are impersonating demons in order to have fun and tease them. And this happens all the time, all the time. (49:06)

Here's another interview with Kevin Cann, author of "Platonic Surrealism."
He recently lectured at Esalen on "UFO's and the Soul."

Kevin Cann on Platonic Surrealism, Esalen School & Summoning Black Triangle UFOs - Psicoactivo #776

KCann]: See, there's two kinds of UFOs, right? Well, three. (1:24:36)
There's the UFOs. That's 80%. They're generated by the CIA, the military-industrial complex, the legacy program.

They've been feeding us bullshit since Roswell because Roswell was a cover up for something and it wasn't the UFO. It was covering up something else.
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What people call 'souls' live in these hyperbeings. (1:26:17) So the same hyperbeing is also capable of being a hyper-object. It's capable of having real-world physical matter be part of it and also what I will call 'projected matter' - You know like simulation matter.

I mean it will show up on radar, right?
You go 'bing bing bing' when you knock on it, but it's simulated and eventually when the the simulation stops, it fades away because it takes energy to keep it going.

It's like a solidified hologram. So, I am not denying that there are nuts and bolts, UFOs. I am not denying it. But the real ones almost never come from outer space. You see, they're already here. They've always been here with us.

So, here's the three classifications again. Now, there's UAPs. Those are drones. Those are black project craft, you know, unidentified aerial phenomena. They're nuts and bolts. They're quite real. They're human. Some of them might have really crazy performance characteristics like you know the tic tac something like that. So that's real (1:27:41) and there is a mystery there and the government is sitting on something...
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(ED: This is like Val Valerian in Matrix V where he talks about how your higher self
knows how you will die ("there is no time" hence simultaneous incarnations (R Monroe)) and gathers information on what you experience when you die)

[KCANN] Some of these (1:32:43) hyper-beings have informational probes in this world right now - that are some of us.

See, we're part of a larger collective of how life lives in this world. You see, 'Platonic Surrealism' teaches that we are like remote probes sent here to gather life experience and report back to the hyper objects and the hyper beings.

So, you my friend are one. And the people that are mystical, that are psychic, they can summon UFOs, this kind of thing, they are just a (1:33:21) little more at peace with the fact that they have this connection.

Robert Temple has opened the door regarding plasma phenomena and potential with his acute observations, bandying concepts like 'the emergence of self-aware fields' and 'self-organized criticality' which leads to consciousness.

[R Temple] : A plasmoid is a glob of plasma surrounded by a kind of skin which they call a sheath. This Sheath is double-layered in the same way that cell membranes are double layered although double layered with different things.

And these sheets of plasmoids are very effective because you can have these plasma blobs take on fantastically complex structure within this the sheath and be in all sorts of strange states of extremely hot, extremely cold and be next to a plasmoid which is quite opposite.
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Described above is a phenomena attributed to plasmas in empty space in which a hot plasma stream can be found directly adjacent to a cold plasma current and they each maintain an isothermal state without and blending of thermal attributes.

Bearing this in mind while reading Rudolf Steiner's "An Outline of Esoteric Science” (1910) could give insight. In 'Esoteric Science' Steiner shares extensive cosmological history of our solar system; and according to his supersensible perception, our solar system, once-upon-a-time, began with Saturn.

[Steiner]: In looking at the middle evolutionary period of the Saturn incarnation, spiritual perception can discern a state consisting primarily of warmth.

Let’s imagine that human beings with present-day sense organs were to approach this Saturn world as observers.

With the exception of the sensation of warmth, they would experience none of the sensory impressions humans can have. On entering the space occupied by Saturn, they would perceive only that its condition of warmth is different from the rest of the surrounding space.

Our observers would be confronted by something like a structured cosmic being that appears in constantly changing states and consists only of heat. So spiritual scientists speak of bodies of heat just as they also speak of bodies of gas or vapor. (“Esoteric Science…” p134-135)
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Per Steiner and Temple's observations one might postulate that inception of a planet or cosmic body begins with plasma conscious "and the delicate substance described as heat..."