^_^ so lets see .... the correct path is to forgive Manuel for his accusations, and ask that the Great Spirit should fill him with so much light and happiness, that whatever it is that causes him to think so poorly of me and others has no room left to exist.

At the same time, I remove all that negativity from my space and my time, and shed it back into the cosmos so that the process of recycling can continue and complete. I see this as done and am thankful that it is so. ^_^

@Darren:

"Because you know me so well, you can tell from another place in the world exaclty the kind of person I am can you?"

No, but I can tell that you don't want to look at child abuse and how it affects society, because you said you don't want to have that in "your" fiction. This not only tells me that you think you own Star Trek, which is not true btw – your emotional reaction also tells me that you become angry if somebody is pointing you to a reality you don't want to look at. Which proves that you prefer to be ignorant.

"if you were to say that to my face....things would end differently I assure you."

I would say that to your face. What would be different then?

"If you had ANY idea who you just said that too you WOULD be ashamed of yourself."

My guess is that I said that to a person who was abused in childhood. It would explain why you are so angry.

"an entertainment venue is NO PLACE TO LAND THAT SUBJECT MATTER"

It's the perfect place, because entertainment is where people go when they want to ignore reality.

Child abuse doesn't go away just because you want it. If you ignore it, it will haunt you. Because reality demands a solution. If people choose to ignore it, it will grow in the dark, until it bubbles over. In other words: If Star Trek needs to be destroyed by wokeism to make you look at reality again, so be it.

see, this is where you lack maturity ... When your out with a date...or relaxing to watch a movie, or meditating, or going to church/worship or what ever.... is this what you contemplate, or do you shut out the real world and have fun? Or do you just enjoy ruining that for other people you know .. a place where they can unwind and not have to deal with the day to day and get some relaxation or fun or excitement?

Next time you go out to relax...or enjoy a show...how bout I come by and discuss things weather you WANT TO OR NOT. And we will see just how wonderful you think it is...

How about instead of filling our entertainment or other venues where the real world should not be, we fill those places with real working nuclear families and what that should look like and go BACK to making ROLE MODELS for our young folk instead of RUINING the nuclear families even on supposedly fun entertainment and not NORMALIZING ABUSE? Would that be a problem Mr. Hollier than thou? Or do you LOVE TO DWELL on the dark side? Cant help but notice that when your argument is week .... you resort to name calling.

Here is a quote for YOU Name-calling is a form of argument that is always a sign of a failure to make a case.

Lets see, Mr. Sensitive....you a few months back called out a certain person for making certain claims. I wonder did you ever consider maybe those claims might be valid, or even take into account that if their not being a dick they way you were could cause them mental harm? Or did you just stomp all over him? Because it was the latter, so you know for someone claiming to care, you really don't seem too. I might not agree with his claims but I'm not going to put him down for it either. You really are a heartless weasel. AND you really need to get over yourself. Your out here causing harm in the name of your self righteous ego.

One more thing...what you did to me can also come with a monetary problem for you. In a public forum you told the world I'm an abuser of children because I disagree with you. Wonder how much that's worth in court? You need to stop being a dick or I will ask Farsight to step in. You seem to think I can be forced into being a world policeman, I am responsible only for me I have no authority over ANYONE else, and for YOU to decide what I SHOULD do...IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

PS if none of this leads to the conclusion that YOU are actually ABUSING people here....well, YOUR BLIND second if your that HOT on fixing the world it's not going to happen from behind a keyboard on the farsight forums....YOU should be out there pounding the pavement HUH?!!?

I think i will conclude my argument with you here, ... Beam me up Scotty, there is NO INTELLIGENT LIFE on this planet, and goto warp 9 any direction away from here and train all weapons on the planet and never ever stop firing......

Oh, one more thing... here is hoping your up to date on all your vaccinations and boosters!!

@Darren:

"Next time you go out to relax...or enjoy a show...how bout I come by and discuss things weather you WANT TO OR NOT."

If you're being abused and nobody helps you, this is EXACTLY what you should do.

"How about instead of filling our entertainment or other venues where the real world should not be, we fill those places with real working nuclear families and what that should look like and go BACK to making ROLE MODELS for our young folk"

That's not a solution because of how human psychology works. If you see the perfect world on TV – like the shows from the 80's and 90's we learned to love, humans begin to think that reality is the same. Because humans believe that fiction is reflecting reality. They don't understand their own psyche, and how the stories on TV are processed emotionally.

The problem is: Seeing the perfect world on TV makes you dissociate from what is happening in reality. A good example are parents yelling at or even hitting their children, and then watching the Bill Cosby Show and aggreeing with how the Huxtables peacefully parent their children. The real parents don't even recognize reality anymore. Instead, they integrate the fictional parents emotionally because of the dissociating effect of the real life trauma.

If you didn't understand what I just explained, think of TV as a drug. You have a bad experience in real life, but then watching perfect fictional characters on TV makes you emotionally forget the trauma. It works like a narcotic that's numbing you.

So, the actual solution is to not hide the dark stuff. Remove the narcotic.

"and not NORMALIZING ABUSE?"

The woke shows don't normalize abuse. This is where the evil manipulation steps in. The evil bastards don't normalize abuse, they use it to normalize a wrong solution for abuse in a way such that abuse will go on. So, you are right, what they show us is not the correct solution. But what you think the solution is, which is the other side of the extreme, isn't the solution either.

"do you LOVE TO DWELL on the dark side?"

I don't dwell on the dark side. I'm looking at the dark side in order to understand it, so that I can change things in reality. This is the actual solution, and there is also fiction out there that perfectly manages to do that.

A good example is the show Shrinking, which presents us role models who aren't perfect at all (because nobody is). Yes, there's also a gay couple in there, and their narcissism is blatantly obvious. But that's the point. They don't show us these characters as role models that tell us how to be. They show them to make clear what it means to be like that. Being gay is not the problem. The narcissism is.

For example, in the second and third season of Shrinking, the gay couple wants to adopt a child. It becomes obvious that they will be horrible parents – not because they are gay, but because of their narcissistic life style. The couple then gets to know the biological mother of the child they want to adopt, and start to develop a friendship with her. It's a psychological study of what family actually means, and the show depicts it perfectly. Because it's not an absolute – it's a journey.

"you a few months back called out a certain person for making certain claims. I wonder did you ever consider maybe those claims might be valid..."

Calling out claims is not the same as name-calling. Calling out claims is a legitimate way in debate in order to investigate whether the claims are true or false. Because claims are not valid, or true, just because they are spoken. If this was the case, there would be no liars – everything everybody says would have to be accepted as truth. That's not how it works.

"or even take into account that if their not being a dick they way you were could cause them mental harm?"

What mental harm are you talking about? If debate leads to the recognition that a claim is false, how does this harm you? Your argument makes sense only one way: You need the false claim to distract yourself from the truth. And you need others to believe the false claim as well, so nobody confronts you with it. Calling out the false claims then would be like taking away the drug you need to feel better. Without that drug, you start to feel reality again, and reality hurts.

But let me tell you this: Only the truth can heal you eventually. If you need more time narcotized in illusions, you can do that. But you can't do that AND debate on the internet. Stay away from the debates if you need more time.

"I might not agree with his claims but I'm not going to put him down for it either."

I didn't put him down, I prevented him spreading his illusions to other people. Because if he needs to spread his illusions, he's the one who is harmful to others. Which btw is the same argument you use against the woke people. They also spread their illusions, because they want everybody narcotized like they are. It's harmful. So, what I did to the person back then was in principle the same you do when arguing against woke people. We are trying to prevent the spreading of false claims.

"In a public forum you told the world I'm an abuser of children because I disagree with you."

No, that's not at all the case. My argument is that you don't want to look at child abuse. This doesn't make you the abuser, it makes you the person who is not helping when asked for help. I don't even say that you are wrong. I just say that that's how it is. You are not helping, because you look the other way. To me, this simply means that you are unable to help.

"Wonder how much that's worth in court? You need to stop being a dick or I will ask Farsight to step in."

You are not the first person who threatens me with legal consequences for making the ugly truth visible, and you will not be the last one. It's the purpose of the courts to shut down people who bring the ugly truth to light. Because this ensures that the systemic child abuse can go on in the dark. So, if you decide to do that, you will switch from not helping to helping the abusers hiding the crimes. Your choice.

"YOU should be out there pounding the pavement HUH?!!?"

That's interesting, because your own argument was that I can't tell from another place in the world what kind of person you are, but now you judge what kind of person I am based on what I have written on a forum. So, is it okay to judge a person based on how that person behaves, or is it not okay?

If you knew me, you would know what I am doing when not writing here. But you don't know that at all.

what I mean is when I look around at all the posts here you stick out as a pompous ass because you consider yourself the "authority" on everything. LIfe coaching a little slow right now?