So, there's a new Star Trek show.

It's essentially a "coming of age" story in the Star Trek universe, directed at younger people. And it's amazing how the world is depicted, because it shows typical everyday life, but with ETs all over the place. It's not like the other Star Trek series that are about far away adventures, military conflicts and so on. That's also in there, but the focus definitely is "how the future will look like on Earth". It's relatable and fun to watch.

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And here's an even more interesting aspect: The show emphasizes the role of the Betazoids, who are the telepaths in the Star Trek universe. And the Betazoids went through shit like no other species.

In summary, there was this galaxy-wide cataclysmic event, the Burn, that threw civilizations centuries back because all warp drives exploded (watch Discovery to see what happened). After the Burn, the Betazoids were attacked by another species, so they went isolationist and established a "psionic barrier" to protect themselves.

In the new show, the Betazoids start to negotiate the return to the Federation, and it becomes clear that they are suppressing their telepathic capabilities. The psionic barrier becomes a key element – it's not only a symbol for the loss of trust, it's also a symbol for the concept of a prison planet. The younger generations want to break out of this prison and join the galactic community again.

But the show also is militaristic propaganda. It somehow reminds me of Starship Troopers, where the purpose of the individual is to die for the collective. The show seems to want to talk about that, because there's a rival to the Academy, the "War College", which represents the shadow side of the Federation (similar to Section 31).

It's a promising setup...

That is honestly very cool!

Thanks for sharing. It sounds like an interesting show. I may actually reactivate my Paramount subscription to watch it.

So, after watching the 4th episode, it's very clear that the new show wants to go deep psychologically.

And it's also clear that most people totally miss the point of what the show tries to say.

➡️ https://me.ign.com/en/star-trek-starfleet-academy-episode-4-vox-in-excelso/240360/review/star-trek-starfleet-academy-episode-4-x-in-excelso-review-vo

"Unfortunately, while the emotional culmination of Jay-Den’s story is effective as he makes the case in the debate for the Klingon way of life to be respected, even if most members of the Federation can’t understand it, the plan to get the Klingons to accept the gift they cannot accept – Faan Alpha – rings false. A bloodless battle where some ships shoot at each other for a few minutes and then everyone says “Yay, the Klingons won”? Nope, doesn't work."

Sigh...

What people obviously don't understand is: After the Burn, it's not only the Klingon Empire that is broken, it's also the Klingon soul. The proud warriors, defeated by nature? They lost a world which they literally had to conquer over centuries, in just a few seconds. They are even at risk of extinction. There is no honor in a defeat without a battle. It's like, nature (God) doesn't approve of them anymore, of their way of living.

And then the arrogant Federation comes along and has the perfect planet for them to survive. If the Klingons would be able to take it like they did with Qo'noS in the old days, they would do it. But they can't. It's humiliating.

So, the "bloodless battle" is not a battle at all – it's a ritual. It's the Federation saying: We see you. We honor you and your way of living. We didn't forget who you are.

And the Klingons see that. They know that they need the gift to survive. But they would rather die if it means to not be Klingons anymore. So, faking the battle is the only way to let the Klingons keep face. The story that will be told will not be about a fake battle. It will be about a friend who honored you, instead of taking advantage of your emergency situation.

It's so sad that people don't get it.

wow, IDK if I would be interested in seeing that kind of StarTrek. Based on the lore alone ... I would expect EVERY SINGLE KLINGON to simply self execute while repeating the old Axiom, "It is a GOOD day to DIE!" And not give a flying f that they no longer had a presence in reality. Talk about mapping your own idiosyncrasy onto someone else's belief systems...LOL Thats not star trek ... that's woke trek....^_^ Sure there would be some cowards that refused and maybe went into hiding in the Federation....but yikes....who wrote this one?

Hearing its a huge plop.

@Darren:

"wait, ... did you NOT just defend the new show and now your showing me.....this?"

You are proving that you can only think in absolutes.

– Yes, Starfleet Academy is a woke nightmare.
– Yes, Starfleet Academy touches deep psychological topics.

Both is true.

But you don't seem to be able to comprehend that, so making it woke makes you look away from the deeper stuff. This means the psyop I described in the following thread is working:

➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/77492-the-media-psyop

"That’s not a tweak — that’s a structural rewrite of Klingon society."

You are absolutely correct. The woke ideologues want to break established societal structures, and the destruction of Klingon house logic is a perfect example. Klingon houses are led by the father. It's a patriarchical system by design. Wokies can't have that, because patriarchy is bad.

But please pay attention to HOW they destruct the established society. You can learn so much from it.

They invented the Burn for a reason. The Burn was a galaxy-wide event that destroyed warp drives, which was the established technology that was used for connecting star systems. Do you see the symbolism of that?

They created a catastrophe that destroyed the connections. And if you watched Discovery, you know that the cause of the Burn was a child that was traumatized by the loss if its mother.

➡️ https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Burn

Quote: "Knowing she and her crewmates were dying, Issa created an elaborate holoprogram designed to educate and nurture Su'Kal and mask the crew's condition from him. In roughly 3069, however, the curious Su'Kal briefly deactivated the hologram and was severely traumatized when he saw his mother die of radiation poisoning, resulting in an emotional outburst that caused a subspace shockwave that destabilized refined dilithium, causing it to suddenly become inert. (DIS: "Su'Kal", "That Hope Is You, Part 2") Because dilithium was used to regulate matter-antimatter reactions, this caused any ship with an active warp core to lose antimatter containment, resulting in a warp core breach. Countless ships were destroyed, including most belonging to the Federation, and millions of lives were lost."

Loss of the mother ➡️ traumatized child ➡️ emotional outburst ➡️ loss of connection

Why do they reinvent Klingon society to accept two fathers?

Because it's the loss of the father that results in the loss of the mother that then leads to the emotional outburst of the traumatized child.

Imagine a family. The family loses the father. The mother takes care of the child, but she can't protect it. Issa died of radiation poisoning. This is a strong symbol for the mother being abused by a partner who is not the father of the child.

You need to understand: The children of single mothers are more likely to be abused by the boyfriend of the mother, because the father is not present. Single mothers tend to bond with bad males because they want to compensate for the loss of the father.

The Burn is a symbol for what's happening in reality: Mother and child are being abused, which destabilizes the child, which results in anger, the loss of connection, and even real deaths.

The idea to give Klingons two fathers is a subconscious attempt to fix the loss of the fathers. One is not enough, two are better, because the children need to be protected from child abuse. This is child logic.

Why the Klingons? Because the child is longing for a strong father, a protector who is capable of stopping the abuser with brute force, if necessary.

So, the whole story is not about destructing the Klingons at all. It's about telling us how the Klingons – the fathers – went through a severe crisis. It's not about the Klingon son not wanting to be Klingon anymore. It's about a Klingon son who lost the way of the Klingons because he lost his father, and then finding back by understanding what it truly means to be a Klingon.

Because a crisis can destabilize you, even if you're a strong warrior. It's possible that a child loses its father, even if the father was a strong Klingon. It's an uncomfortable truth that most people don't want to look at.

Starfleet Academy emphasizes the role of friends when a crisis destabilizes you.

So, what will happen with the Klingons after they settled on Faan Alpha? What does the new planet symbolically stand for?

It's of course the "safe space" traumatized people need in order to heal. So the interesting question is: How will the healing of the Klingons look like? Think about it...

There will be different factions, like traditionalists who will reject the safe space, because that's not the Klingon way of living. The traditionalists will separate from Faan Alpha, maybe even declaring war on it. This will not be a bad thing, because that war will be the Klingon way of healing.

They will also declare war on the Federation in order to heal the fake battle. And the Federation is the perfect enemy, because they proved with the fake battle that they understand the Klingon way of living. It's like: You voluntarily losing the fake battle was a promise to repeat it without being fake.

That's what friends are for.

you know you point to my point exactly with your own words Manuel...

and I quote

Quote: "Knowing she and her crewmates were dying, Issa created an elaborate holoprogram designed to educate and nurture Su'Kal and mask the crew's condition from him. In roughly 3069, however, the curious Su'Kal briefly deactivated the hologram and was severely traumatized when he saw his mother die of radiation poisoning, resulting in an emotional outburst that caused a subspace shockwave that destabilized refined dilithium, causing it to suddenly become inert. (DIS: "Su'Kal", "That Hope Is You, Part 2") Because dilithium was used to regulate matter-antimatter reactions, this caused any ship with an active warp core to lose antimatter containment, resulting in a warp core breach. Countless ships were destroyed, including most belonging to the Federation, and millions of lives were lost."

Loss of the mother ➡️ traumatized child ➡️ emotional outburst ➡️ loss of connection

Why do they reinvent Klingon society to accept two fathers?

Because it's the loss of the father that results in the loss of the mother that then leads to the emotional outburst of the traumatized child.

WHY DO YOU BRING SUCH TRAMA INTO MY SCIENCE FICTION !?!

THIS IS NOT A PLACE I WANT TO GO ANY MORE, I LIKED STAR TREK BECAUSE IT REMOVED THAT KIND OF BS FROM MY MIND FOR A SHORT TIME, now.....its almost as bad as real life. Where we now fly flags even to announce how we have sex. WTF?!? None of the gay folks in my family ever felt the need to bring their bedroom into my living room, now I got people like you advocating that you bring trama into my ENTERTAINMENT. PLZ STOP JUSTIFYING THIS GARBAGE

thanks very much LOL

Darren wrote:

>> "Knowing she and her crewmates were dying, Issa created an elaborate
>> holoprogram designed to educate and nurture Su'Kal and mask the crew's
>> condition from him. In roughly 3069, however, the curious Su'Kal briefly deactivated
>> the hologram and was severely traumatized when he saw his mother die of radiation
>> poisoning, resulting in an emotional outburst that caused a subspace shockwave
>> that destabilized refined dilithium, causing it to suddenly become inert. (DIS: "Su'Kal",
>> "That Hope Is You, Part 2") Because dilithium was used to regulate matter-antimatter
>> reactions, this caused any ship with an active warp core to lose antimatter containment,
>> resulting in a warp core breach. Countless ships were destroyed, including most
>> belonging to the Federation, and millions of lives were lost."

I'm quite busy and I only sped-read what was said and noticed a few interesting words;

So just a funny linguistic thing, **ISSA** is the Indian name that Yeshua [Jesus] used in India. When he retired there after being forced away from Jerusalem.

**SU KAI** means "Water god" Su=Water in ancient Turkish&Japanese, Kai=god.
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Spock in chair looks at David and raises one eyebrow, and says

Fascinating!

Ratings for Spock in chair show go up 1000%

Yeah ... that was funny.

Manuel: "bro! New star trek tailored to youth"

Me: "cool!"

Manuel: "it's woke."

Me: 💀

@Darren:

"WHY DO YOU BRING SUCH TRAMA INTO MY SCIENCE FICTION !?!"

Because you ignore real child abuse in real life.

really? wow....you are FULL of assumptions aren't you.

Because you know me so well, you can tell from another place in the world exaclty the kind of person I am can you?

This is why WOKE is a mind virus, and your holier than thou posture is derived from it. Your very brave behind your keyboard sir....if you were to say that to my face....things would end differently I assure you. YOU KNOW NOTHING of me, or my life or what anyone else has to deal with, you ASSUME way to much. If you had ANY idea who you just said that too you WOULD be ashamed of yourself. I assure you. Again Mr quoting out of time and place, an entertainment venue is NO PLACE TO LAND THAT SUBJECT MATTER. But you insist I see and dengrate anyone who complains, you call me out for ignoring abuse, WHILE YOU HAND IT OUT. I suggest you look in the mirror ... and see the real dirt.