There's discussion about different densities of existence that seem foreign to most humans.

But, what if the fundamental reality of "Disclosure" is in the astral realm (different density). If true, where does the value of Disclosure sit otherwise?

Courtney (et al) have stopped short of really discussing this -- but I feel like it's been hinted at. The "ships", what they look like, the ET Board Meetings -- they are real, but there is a different density and reality they exist in. Some of us experience this through "astral projection" -- others are abducted in that form, using only their astral body. I recall this being discussed in The Andreasson Affair books, where the woman was taken from her body, then to different places and realities; actual craft were used in those realities to travel.

This dense, 3D reality we are in now is likely the prison. Some suggest it is a construct, or simulation. It might be "all of the above". But someone, some race is mastering this -- and our government does *not* want us to understand it. Whatever it is.

It could be that certain beings are able to traverse these densities, even if temporarily, but certainly within technology that is completely foreign to us. Perhaps they are able to occupy the familiar androgynous android (grey) bodies, to facilitate being in this reality. We have heard about "doll bodies" before, this could in fact be what's taking place.

If this is true, this would seem to expose some of the counter intelligence and disinformation being splattered into our society. It would explain how some Senators (in the US) suggest that the truth is indigestible, terrifying, etc.

If this is true, and I suspect it's closer to the truth, I'd like to hear Farsight address it.

The stuff Farsight have talked of on what goes on is part of what rightly may be deemed "indigestible", the humans doing similar is beyond ghastly.

Yep, naughty aliens are on the astral, multidimensionality is a thing.

I've been abducted astrally more than physically, they only do that when needing a proper re-tiuning it seems.
Been awake physcially in alien bases amongst throngs of people standing all about with eyes open but not moving.
Not seen many others when it has been astral, only a few.

Here is a brief account of observable phenomena:

What I ascertain as 3 Lilitu Hags
(with some sort of daughter vibe to the female creature at Saturn),
will approach a likely victim who is sleeping but close to the spirit and body, rather than off on adventures or drolling through recent "daydreamy" things.

They will employ a Grey alien, or as in magickal circles "a frog", to morph itself into a potential sexual partner.

The hags remain in the background, slaking their thirsts.
The reason for the pretense is at a point the Grey will be urged to change, and the next thing is the victim will be with opposite sex, the expected and usual response is revulsion and horror, a shrinking back and spilling out as one freezes.
The Hags are after that more than the sexual potency generated during stimulus.

Works for heterosexual people, but not for gay/lesbian or bi peeps I reckon.
Must be like a lot of their stuff, geared long ago and is a bit dusty.
There are plenty more sophisticated things, but they still use a lot of ancient ones.

Hags looked kinda like they evolved alongside Sumerians, but are not human spirits at all.
They wear frocks that look to be picked up in the 1950s or 40s, but have suplhurous crystals ejecting through the material that seem to come from their bodies.
Nasty faces, old lady hair, stocky, look to be about 70 years old each.

Not sure if they used tech somehow, could've been. Why would them nasty witches need to use a frog (Grey) if endowed with magicks?
That is for noobs. :P

Take the common experience shared when on DMT of those Mantid beings, usually after what people call "robotic elves" rushing the newly "arrived".
That seems tech based.

Would also be interested in Farsight talking a bit on this, as I've mentioned they have Reptilians guising as angels, that is definite tech... how the frick do they use tech not physical?

If these beings can impact our perception, then that may explain some of our history -- our brains/minds interpreting what we see, versus what is actually there, which could be an ontological shock. But, that type of caution or care would imply concern toward us, which changes the equation a bit. If someone simply wants to take something without regard, they won't engage additional effort to conceal, etc.

Whatever the case, it would be immensely helpful if Farsight participated here in the forum and/or addressed the matter in a more direct fashion. I suspect it is a combination of things. But IMHO they (Farsight) stop short of actually articulating what's happening -- that could be out of concern, but I think it's time to put all the cards on the table.

If you shift into what you call the astral realm, what exactly is different?

To be more clear: Let's imagine that every person on Earth shifts into the astral realm at once.

What will be different?

I know this wasn't your main point but there is something about androgyny that helps seal the trap. Notice the push in the mainstream that intercourse is basically relegated to more traumatic than not. The "gaia" new age rhetoric along with old organized religions all about celibacy.

There is clearly something related to stunting awareness

What a Generational-Gap for the Boomers contrasted to Gen-Z for this doozey of a title: «Boomers Still Don't Believe in Aliens, While Gen Z Thinks the Government Is Lying About UFO News»
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/generational-divide-ufo-news-belief-aliens-1815635

Time-Stamp: 030TL08m22d/21h37Z (True Light Calendar; 030TL = 2026CE)