Quote from @AsmodeanX:

➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/79393-from-observation-to-action#post-470208

"What I'm not convinced of is that the existence of deception demonstrates that deception is necessary for the system to work."

Not on a fundamental level. Mere violence works as well. But: Forcing people into the traps with mere violence doesn't work with bigger populations over longer periods of time. If the system only runs on violence, it will break within a few generations.

"Even a system capable of using force would have every reason to prefer deception if deception prevents resistance from developing in the first place."

Exactly. That's why deception is necessary for bigger populations.

"That's why I don't think we can conclude that recognizing the deception necessarily defeats the mechanism."

Recognizing the deception forces the oppressors to use overt violence, which will lead to resistance as a counter-force. The oppressors will be forced to reduce the population to make it managable again. ISBEs can't be killed, so reducing the population means to relocate them.

"Does recognition itself remove the system's power over that person?"

No. You still need to resist.

"Does the mechanism actually require consent?"

No. If you don't consent, they first try to trick you. Farsight even saw this: Lao Tzu wasn't convinced to go into the light. Two beings descended from above and talked to him. While it's not clear what they said to him, they obviously managed to persuade him to go into the light.

"What constitutes consent?"

For the bad guys: If you go along with what they tell you, even if they lie to you or threaten you with violence.

"What happens when consent is explicitly withheld?"

It all depends on whether you believe that you are your body. If you believe that, they can "grap" you. An example is Aziz' memory of a grappling hook that pierced into his side and pulled him upwards. This only works when people believe that they need the body, including the energy body that remains after death.

"I want humanity to understand the mechanism well enough that we're not relying on another untested belief about how to escape it."

Most people are not ready to let go of the body, even after death. They think that existence ends when there is no body. This is the main problem. Because letting go of the body, even the energy body, always is a leap of faith.

Why did Farsight remote view Lao Tzu? He didn't avoid the trap. But his energy body got dissolved in the process. One of the remote viewers described it as being "shredded". He still survived and got out.

Think about that: Courtney always talks about a high-voltage zapping. What exactly is this "zapping"? If you ask me, it's a process of torture that is supposed to force the ISBE into a state of compliance. The ISBE eventually complies because it's either confused, or it just wants the process to end before the body dissolves. Lao Tzu didn't give in. He went through the entire process until the end, which means he lost his energy body.

Conclusion: The ISBE can exist without form. But form is required for violence to work, because violence is a distortion of the form. As long as you want to avoid the distortion, as long as you cling to the form, the violence will be successful.

Lao Tzu was still able to remember everything afterwards. So, you don't lose your memory when you lose your form. Because memory is not information stored inside your body. Not even in your energy body. True memory works differently. It's more like remote viewing – you remember by remote viewing your past, your own timeline. Losing form at one moment in time doesn't change your timeline. What happened remains.

Yes the energy body after death is the soul, what you've been brainwashed to think you are, when it's only a prison for your ISBE, Essence call it whatever you like.
I suggested in another post that the BEST and MOST important project to do would be to target "an alien, any alien if it exists who 1) knows how we can easily or otherwise escape for sure 2) very important it's weak minded enough to be probed at will deeply without posing resistance or telling anyone in the process of probing it"
I don't know whether Farisght Courtney Aimee etc read the forums but if they do please please this would be the MOST IMPORTANT target. If such an alien exists we would have THE answer to get out for sure, it's the greatest remote viewing for humanity

I have remote-viewed what the Aliens do.

They have some voice-commands that they can say at the gate to let them through, bypassing the memory wipe.

Sort of like "I have Diplomatic immunity, let me through." and the zapper doesn't fire. Paraphrased of course.

Well it's not about what the alien can do that interests me, it's about what WE can do that they know we can do to escape. Only an alien with knowledge and a weak mind resistance to probing can do that, and only a blind target project can achieve this as well

@Antonella Ercolani:

You are asking for an impossible thing, and I already told you that.

The people who know how to escape are not weak minded, so you can't probe them against their will. If you do so, they will identify you as one of the bad guys and defend themselves.

What fascinates me: You don't even think about just asking them.

So, what you actually want is to use remote viewing to probe one of the bad guys for a loophole. Like, tell me the password that will open the gate.

Do you really believe that it would be that easy? The trap can probe you for what you believe and wish for to use it against you. If I were the trap, I would let people who believe they know the password walk directly into the trap.

Watch the Star Trek Voyager episode "Bliss" (s05e14). It's an accurate depiction of how the trap works in principle.

@Antonella

You don't need to force "aliens" with "mind probes" (yikes) to tell you something you can "do".

What you can do? Read Lao Tzu.
He left a text behind for others.

According to Farsight's viewing, he was not held in the death traps and seemed to re-emerge in another form elsewhere if I recall their viewing correctly.

Again, while I hold Lao Tzu's insight, my remote viewing target proposal is much more precise more much more detailed and no it doesn't include aliens that will defend themselves. If you read again my precise target you will see that it includes an "if it exists" (a weak minded alien who knows the way for us to escape the matrix) so if an alien among billions like this does not exists (unlikely...) the remote viewer will get nothing not connect to a strong alien who will attack them,

I think I see the nature of your statement, Antonella.

Even in the remote viewing space, that doesn't promise anyone "the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth." Aziz has actually pointed at this occasionally across the sessions. You may be able to reach across space and time, but you will still encounter entities that are motivated, politically directed, to BS you at every corner.

And without taking their word for it, remote viewing does offer a means of data gathering that is in a way "cutting through" the intended noise. It is a mental invasion, a weaponization. But one can debate the morality of empirical soldiers looking to facilitate the abduction and rape children at a whim, and we should be criticized for driving into their mental space?

So with that: Yes, indeed, it's fair enough to garner the aim of psi ability to pierce into the appropriate minds, not just "peer" toward friendly willing subjects.

The thing I would get more at is the utility of it.

What I often gather from the more advanced remote viewers is they don't look at this whole thing from scratch. They are trying to piece together a giant puzzle using combinations of psi phenomena, witness testimony, physical evidence, and yes even the strings of mainstream claims.

I have stepped away from wanting to say "farsight should go remote view this and remote view that." I imagine farsight hears those statements. It's like a child too scared to get splashed by water telling the swimmer "you should go to that corner of the pool, or how about this corner."

Anyways, back to your main point, Antonella.

There is nothing inherently loving and peaceful about the galaxy in my opinion. Work needs to be done that both de-escalates situations and also harbors the appropriate diplomatic weaponry.

NO my MAIN point is that this specific remote viewing under these conditions SHOULD be attempted as it's the best way to cut through the VAGUENESS in the previous soul trap series intended or not.......There is NO reason for FARSIGHT not to do it and ALL the reasons in the UNIVERSE to do it....at least for us humans in the know......

Personally (and I do hope more people who subscribe to farsight agree...) I don't care about the intricacies of how an old monument was built, or stuff like that, I want things like this that can better my existence as an ISBE, not entertainment or knowledge for the sake of it with no use to it.........that's the main reason I re subscribe only when there's something actionable on the "human condition" not some remote viewing of ancient battle exopolitics ancient monuments and stuff like that....

And The galaxy is loving and peaceful??? No, 1) not my main point 2) not even my point, it's neutral, there is a prison matrix, a part of the galaxy and maybe other galaxies as well, and a Free Matrix, where you are YOU and not bound by anything and anyone. Do some regressions and recover memories it's beyond words...

Try reach 'the monad' via meditation