Quote from @AsmodeanX:

➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/79393-from-observation-to-action#post-470208

"What I'm not convinced of is that the existence of deception demonstrates that deception is necessary for the system to work."

Not on a fundamental level. Mere violence works as well. But: Forcing people into the traps with mere violence doesn't work with bigger populations over longer periods of time. If the system only runs on violence, it will break within a few generations.

"Even a system capable of using force would have every reason to prefer deception if deception prevents resistance from developing in the first place."

Exactly. That's why deception is necessary for bigger populations.

"That's why I don't think we can conclude that recognizing the deception necessarily defeats the mechanism."

Recognizing the deception forces the oppressors to use overt violence, which will lead to resistance as a counter-force. The oppressors will be forced to reduce the population to make it managable again. ISBEs can't be killed, so reducing the population means to relocate them.

"Does recognition itself remove the system's power over that person?"

No. You still need to resist.

"Does the mechanism actually require consent?"

No. If you don't consent, they first try to trick you. Farsight even saw this: Lao Tzu wasn't convinced to go into the light. Two beings descended from above and talked to him. While it's not clear what they said to him, they obviously managed to persuade him to go into the light.

"What constitutes consent?"

For the bad guys: If you go along with what they tell you, even if they lie to you or threaten you with violence.

"What happens when consent is explicitly withheld?"

It all depends on whether you believe that you are your body. If you believe that, they can "grap" you. An example is Aziz' memory of a grappling hook that pierced into his side and pulled him upwards. This only works when people believe that they need the body, including the energy body that remains after death.

"I want humanity to understand the mechanism well enough that we're not relying on another untested belief about how to escape it."

Most people are not ready to let go of the body, even after death. They think that existence ends when there is no body. This is the main problem. Because letting go of the body, even the energy body, always is a leap of faith.

Why did Farsight remote view Lao Tzu? He didn't avoid the trap. But his energy body got dissolved in the process. One of the remote viewers described it as being "shredded". He still survived and got out.

Think about that: Courtney always talks about a high-voltage zapping. What exactly is this "zapping"? If you ask me, it's a process of torture that is supposed to force the ISBE into a state of compliance. The ISBE eventually complies because it's either confused, or it just wants the process to end before the body dissolves. Lao Tzu didn't give in. He went through the entire process until the end, which means he lost his energy body.

Conclusion: The ISBE can exist without form. But form is required for violence to work, because violence is a distortion of the form. As long as you want to avoid the distortion, as long as you cling to the form, the violence will be successful.

Lao Tzu was still able to remember everything afterwards. So, you don't lose your memory when you lose your form. Because memory is not information stored inside your body. Not even in your energy body. True memory works differently. It's more like remote viewing – you remember by remote viewing your past, your own timeline. Losing form at one moment in time doesn't change your timeline. What happened remains.