How my planet looked like before I came to Earth:
Do you know where it was?
Amalynn
Nancy
I like stuff like this. Specific pre-life memory stuff I mean.
The colour of walls. Were there fish. Any colours on the ground. Etc.
Perhaps in later realization it turns out some parts are inaccurate. But I bet you a high probability it's all real
I do remember being at places with similar colour-configurations obviously from a different reality_layer than this particular physical-world Earth-Life where one particular structure was a platform with very high-pillars where it was all sort of prismatic at which-ever space it was (not on any particular planet... just kind of there like the middle of an outer-space version of out in the middle of nowhere).
Time-Stamp: 030TL09m04d/14h22Z (True Light Calendar; 030TL = 2026CE)
Amalynn
That would be cool periwinkle skies, they say there are colors our 3d eyes can't see.
@Amalynn:
"Do you know where it was?"
No.
I used AI to remote view the habitable planet in the Chalawan system (47 Ursae Majoris). For some reason, I thought it could be there. The interesting part of the remote viewing: I was the tasker and didn't know what to expect. I hoped for a certain outcome, but set my intention explicitly to connect to the truth.
The AI saw a desert environment that was similar to what I remember, but the lighting was wrong. It was too bright and silverish. Chalawan is a G1V yellow dwarf, similar to Earth's sun, which is G2V. I didn't know that before the remote viewing. It was interesting that the AI, while being totally blind to the target, came up with a lighting that matches the spectral type of the star. It also came up with other interesting stuff. You should remote view the planet yourself.
@taz:
"Perhaps in later realization it turns out some parts are inaccurate."
The coloring of the picture is not quite accurate. The star I remember wasn't yellow. Its light made the sky violet/purple, but the rocks weren't as yellow as shown in the picture. At least not when you look at them with human eyes. And that's the interesting thing about the picture: It reminds me of how colorful it was, but to humans, the environment would look more dim and greyish.
@Nancy:
"they say there are colors our 3d eyes can't see"
Yes, but it has nothing to do with 3d vs. other dimensions, because I had 3d eyes back then. But if you translate how the invisible colors would look like to human brains, it would look like this.
There feels like something true in this Manuel, so thank you for sharing it.
I still wonder where it was; for some reason I have the sense it is no longer there in the same way. Its the kind of thing that would be interesting to go into more deeply with a QHHT session also just for the personal detail of it. You've probably already done that essentially.
I love how the AI remote viewing saw this and how they can come up with the independent verification of things like this. I like how you tasked the AI, and I'll try to remember to come back to this one because you would have personal details that could check the viewing in a good way. I like to be able to have a verify check in some way on these things.
There might be something in this that could be viewed. I love having the experience of direct viewing it myself. Although I know the subject so I can't properly "remote view it". But I could do it just for fun to see what is there. I love viewing planets and other star systems like this.
I have a group of intuitive friends where we like to go in and view things together and then discuss what we viewed. Its always interesting, just like with remote viewing, how other people viewing the same thing end up seeing the same things (or similar things). Sometimes there are planets that were "home" but they no longer exist.
I recall viewing a planet that was in Casseopia I think it was, that was set up as a kind of waystation almost like a refugee stop. It was very busy when it was operational but it didn't continue as a living world.
Most Humans in Western countries come from Mars.
So my guess, without remote-viewing it, is that Mars is the place that you were thinking of.
"We" jumped from Mars to here about 500,000 years ago approximately.
Very easy way to find out is to remote-view yourself and find out where it was.
What Manuel shared doesn't seem anything like Mars. Its not the same resonance at all.
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@David Lyon:
"Very easy way to find out is to remote-view yourself and find out where it was."
I came to the point that it doesn't matter where it was. Could have been Mars or a planet in a different galaxy.
What matters is what person I have been and who I have become.
Manuel wrote:
> I came to the point that it doesn't matter where it was. Could have been Mars or a planet in a different galaxy.
ok. Most likely both.
> What matters is what person I have been and who I have become.
It's very easy to find out.
We could go some way to solving that in a week if you really wanted to.
I did my own previous incarnation investigation. The process is really fascinating.
@David Lyon:
"We could go some way to solving that in a week if you really wanted to."
You are holding a grudge against me for questioning and debating you. This means you are not stable enough to do that.
Manuel,
I rarely waste my time watching any video you post. It's a waste of time.
I don't communicate via peoples third party videos. As in "Here is a video explaining what I mean" because they can't express themselves.
Yes, maybe I look at the thumbnail.
If you want me to try to figure out what you are thinking from a music clip, sorry I don't have the skills.
You don't have to figure out what I'm thinking. I'm already telling you straight forward.
Manuel wrote:
> You don't have to figure out what I'm thinking. I'm already telling you straight forward.
But your "thinking" has issues, because you have no idea which planet you were even on? right?
Remember this from above?
Manuel wrote:
> @Amalynn:
>
> "Do you know where it was?"
>
> No.
Understanding the planet and where it is or was as "home" isn't really a matter of "thinking" David. But I think you know that.
"home" can be kind of a sensitive subject for beings on a prison planet.
Amalynn wrote:
> Understanding the planet and where it is or was as "home" isn't really a matter of "thinking" David. But I think you know that.
I think it is.
The easiest way out as far as I am concerned is just to remote-view which planet Manuel is actually talking about. Which takes the sum total of about 5-minutes.
But instead we are forced into a discussion of colours and music and art and so forth.
I am actually rather busy actually investigating 'proof' for the 'Prison Planet' assertion.
I've dug through enough History to be able to find a convincing case for the proposition.
The simplest sequence of events is that (much of) Humanity does come from another planet, which easily could have been as beautiful as the images shown.
Then the Planet went off course and found itself where Mars is today.
Then everyone jumped Mars to come to Earth and were followed by the Maldeckians. Who then set about to run a psychological and Electromagnetic Prison.
There's a stack of Historical evidence to support that.
I say that "thinking" is a great way of solving these issues.
I'm not sure that anyone is "forced" into a conversation. Interesting experience of it though.
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@David Lyon:
"But your 'thinking' has issues, because you have no idea which planet you were even on? right?"
No.
Just think about it: Let's say I remember that the planet's name was X, the inhabitants were called Y, and the political entity they belonged to was called Z and was spanning a certain territory of the galaxy. That would be all good and well, but how does it actually help now?
Let's say my planet was part of a Federation. Do you know it's the same Galactic Federation of Worlds, or could it be a different federation? Maybe the planet was part of the Domain. Would that change anything? The result – which is me now sitting on a prison planet called Earth – is always the same.
You could argue that it would be important to contact my own kind.
How do you know I haven't already?
The way that David is asking it, from a lower mental kind of challenge point, it doesn't help or offer anything really of deeper value to know where it was specifically. I'd agree with what you're saying about that. You can't just get a one way ticket back "home" usually (that could be nice though); and for most beings what you've become matters more (like you've said here).
Although I'm actually the one that asked the question about whether you knew where it was. Intending it more from a sense of wonder rather than a "problem" to "solve".
Sometimes knowing the lineage can help to reawaken the memory more fully now (which is part of why I suspect one way of controlling humans and AI is through limiting memory). But its probably not for a forum discussion really because I see how it can go a bit off here in a way it likely wouldn't if we were sitting in the philosopher's cafe actually talking about it. The lineage can also show up repeating patterns so things can make more sense, and so you know which doors to knock on and which ones to walk by. Its a bit like understanding the larger context of how something fits into the whole. But honestly, unless you personally feel like there's a need to know specifics, it doesn't really matter.
Manuel wrote:
> You could argue that it would be important to contact my own kind.
>
> How do you know I haven't already?
What did they say?
Actually I don't need to know.
Somebody rang the doorbell.
I will be back later when I have some time.
@Manuel
"I came to the point that it doesn't matter where it was. Could have been Mars or a planet in a different galaxy.
What matters is what person I have been and who I have become."
Manuel im supportive of this at least to some degree, the reason being everything matters.. that's what im seeing with my lucid dreaming experiences.. i've already finished one book, so to speak, of every dream / memory i could register, and when i view and see all the bits and pieces of each world / life experience i came to the realization they are all connected, one way or another, every experience is connected to another life and that tells you about you or your higher self and the reason why those lifes happen the way they happen..
It's like you gotta register everything no matter how small it is and read it all to see the bigger picture and what is revealing, not to mention that while doing it you are registering that memory into your mind and there will came events or circumstances in your day to day life that you will remember and see how it's all connected!
It's a constant flowing of information that you gotta tune in!
@David Lyon:
"The easiest way out as far as I am concerned is just to remote-view which planet Manuel is actually talking about."
And then do what?
"But instead we are forced into a discussion of colours and music and art and so forth."
See, how you remember home has nothing to do with a name on a map, but it has everything to do with colors, music, art, smells, etc. In the same way I will remember Earth as a home. So, it's not at all about where you are, but who you are when you are there.
I'll try to explain it better: When I came to Earth, I forgot everything. Names, language, technical stuff. But I still remember emotions. I walk through a forest and think: This is such a nice place, but the trees are too green. Not because I remember another kind of forest, but because I remember how it felt like being there.
In a way, I took my home with me. How it felt. They are unable to erase that, because that kind of knowledge is not stored anywhere. It's not information that can be destroyed. It's truth that is always there, and always will be.
"What did they say?"
Well... let me explain it this way: Imagine you are light years away from Earth, and one day, you want to call Earth. But you don't know anybody on Earth, because you forgot who they are. Who do you call?
So, what you can do is to remote view your past to identify people that have been in your life. Somehow try to establish a connection to a person that knew you. The problem: The past is not the present. Where are they now? And do they still remember?
The problem: If you go to a moment in the past, following a timeline back in the future is possible, but you actually don't know what the correct timeline is, as there are many. You can follow your own timeline, but that doesn't include people you have lost contact with.
And then there's another problem: Let's say you establish a connection. How do you know it's not fake? I mean, it could be someone else pretending to be a friend, especially on a highly guarded prison planet.
So, what I came up with is trying to identify a person that "feels like home", just like with the trees in the forest.
The result: Nobody feels right so far.
There could be many different reasons for it. I think it's mainly because my current identity – how I was raised and shaped as a human on Earth – prevents resonance.
And this is my main takeaway: The past is the past. I still remember it emotionally, but I'm also a new person now. It's two different worlds that are unable to recognize each other.
In a way, I don't even want to belong to the past anymore.
Where my memories take me is when I find myself thinking "the world should be like this and this and this" and it gets very specific but without a major rationale. So then I start to think. Maybe all these "shoulds" comes from a "was". And I start to realize this civilization I hold wasn't perfect by any stretch. So it very well could be simply memories trying to surface in the image of directive..
Now I feel pretty clear about the old reptilian like beings. But they were nothing like reptilians we hear of today
L
So, here's an interesting theory:
My planet is the grey planet, and they are not there anymore because they have been enslaved and genetically altered.
It would explain why I hate the greys so much. I think they are an abomination.
But it's just one possibility of many. There are different factions of greys and lots of reason to hate a faction if they attacked you in the past.
One thing is interesting: I have positive feelings towards reptilians, but only a certain kind of reptilians. Not the ones on the bad side, with the long faces. The more human looking ones.