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Here's me sitting with coffee this morning humming a joyful tune.
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Here's that little voice that says:
"Why don't you just check the Farsight Forum? It will be good. You have a few moments and I bet the interspecies intergalactic diplomacy there is going quite well.
And then I think, well, what can it hurt to just take a quick look...👀
@Aéius Cercle:
"Once you are sufficiently evolved/developed, you no longer view others as opponents to be conquered, but, as potential allies to be freed from their self-destructive cult-beliefs."
I don't view my enemies as opponents to be conquered. I view them as beings who I have to defend myself against, because they are either aggressive themselves, or they are order-followers of their aggressive governments / gods.
@Amalynn:
"And then I think, well, what can it hurt to just take a quick look..."
This is still just words. The part that actually hurts hasn't begun yet. At least not for you, because you can still enjoy the coffee in the morning humming a joyful tune. Do you think this will be possible forever on a prison planet run by psychopaths?
@taz:
I was surprised as well how this thread shifted. I hit a nerve with this question, and that made me shift gears.
Disclosure is not just about telling an interesting story. It's about how reality works, people claiming ownership of reality, and the real life consequences of that mindset – like burning children, for instance.
Do you really think that getting your memories back will be like a walk in the park?
I remember an entire planet burning...
...just because. Yes. Additional-Threads/Links added into Explainer-Audio...
https://aeius.quantum-note.com/hub/i-p/media/a-h/audio/a-h/bayesian-evidence/
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Time for coffee again. Look at that. ☕️🍎🎶
@Manuel, actually, life IS forever. And life is the deeper reality from my perspective. So one is better to align with Life if you can. A prison planet is like a temporary dam in the river where things were distorted. But its against the flow of life. So it won't remain forever. You don't need to accept this though (actually I'm betting maybe $10 and a cup of coffee that Manuel is going to argue with this).
And I haven't read what Taz wrote above but I see the response. I think the difficult thing isn't getting the memories back, its integrating them. And integrating them in a way that is digestible and empowering rather than reinforcing a soul level trauma or downgrading the consciousness. It isn't easy. You're right. But the memory remains there regardless of whether you're conscious of it. It can be done. Although I would balance the memory of entire planets burning with asking to see your most beautiful, most soul aligned memories (whatever that might be for you) and what is for your highest good right now.
Many planets burned or were completely destroyed and nothing remains there. A burned planet can regenerate. Planets can be terraformed and regreened, but it takes a little time. Mars could be regreened and it wouldn't likely take that long. The destroyed ones I'm not sure. I think the restoration is harder with those.
One thing I recall is that in the Lyran wars the extraction tech was at the time still really crude so they destroyed whole planets to extract the "ISBE's" (if you want to use that term). Then they put the captured ISBE's into technology used in the war. The draconian side used the Lyran souls to become trackers to hunt the others in that soul group in a kind of twisted way; because a lot of things worked on soul resonance. They also used reptillian souls, particularly the ones who sided with the Lyrans or helped them, because of their incredible intelligence and power. I recall that they particularly sought out very powerful and high frequency elder beings because their souls were more potent in war technology. Especially if they could be tuned to war. In my view, it allowed lower developed, lower frequency beings, to access many things they didn't themselves have the ability to access or the wisdom to really wield rightly. Actually AI on earth has an echo of that moment and reminds me of it a little bit in the sense of lower competency beings trying to control superintelligent ones.
But if you think about it, a planet is burned (or completely destroyed like Maldek), where do the beings on that planet go? The ISBE's I mean. Some of the elemental beings they can likely remain in some form, move into stone, crystal, water. But you've got a lot of ISBEs without bodies and really no way to go back into the kind of forms they were in before. There's no where to return to, and no easy way off the planet. Or even if there IS somewhere to return to, and say for example you were an amphibian adapted melusine humanoid on a water planet, you can't live there as you are now. Even if the space ship dropped you off there, you're physical body isn't adapted for it. The practical issue is ET can't just return home even if freed from the prison planet.
And then if you lost soul group members in those planetary ruptures. How do you get them back? Because ISBEs aren't just solitary single members. They have kin groups. They have families. They were part of whole planetary ecosystems.
So I'm in agreement on this point, that none of it is a walk in the park. Maybe more like a trek up the mountain only to find out there's a whole range of mountains...or a quest through the jungle...or a trip across the sea on a sailboat turned into a makeshift raft and if you're lucky you find a friendly pod of dolphins along the way.
@Amalynn:
"Manuel, actually, life IS forever."
Why do you say that? I never said that it is not.
"And life is the deeper reality from my perspective. So one is better to align with Life if you can."
This makes no sense. There is no reality without life. What are you talking about?
"A prison planet [...] won't remain forever."
Why do you say that? I never said that a prison planet lasts forever.
"But the memory remains there regardless of whether you're conscious of it. It can be done."
I never said that it can't be done.
"Although I would balance the memory of entire planets burning with asking to see your most beautiful, most soul aligned memories"
You don't get what I'm saying. My point is: Earth will burn as well if humanity chooses to stay ignorant.
Manuel wrote:
> You don't get what I'm saying. My point is: Earth will burn as well if humanity chooses to stay ignorant.
Said like a wonderful Imam or Christian preacher.
However, this goes completely against the actual evidence of Humanity and standard of living.
A few questions:
- Do you have Electric Lighting where you live?
- Do you have a microwave that can heat up food with having to light a fire?
- can you cross town in comfortable transport at affordable prices ?
Could people do that where you live 200 years ago?
Please check the evidence.
Re: «I don't view my enemies as opponents to be conquered. I view them as beings who I have to defend myself against, because they are either aggressive themselves, or they are order-followers of their aggressive governments / gods.» -Manuel
And suppose, for as rather «miraculous/impossible» that it may sound or seem, that there came about such a thing as a non-aggressive peace-promoting government, non-aggressive peace-promoting god, who have «followers» who heed and «follow» the commandment of Peace Unto All?
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Information is one form of evidence. Farsight supplies much evidence....
@David Lyon:
"Said like a wonderful Imam or Christian preacher."
But in contrast to a religious preacher, I can tell you exactly why, and without saying that it's a punishment of God.
"However, this goes completely against the actual evidence of Humanity and standard of living."
Being able to heat up food in a microwave doesn't prevent the logical consequences of the belief in authority.
@Aéius Cercle:
"...there came about such a thing as a non-aggressive peace-promoting government..."
That's impossible. If a government is non-aggressive, it can't enforce its made-up laws with violence. A government that can't enforce its made-up laws with violence is not a government by definition.
"non-aggressive peace-promoting god"
Such a god doesn't have order-followers, because you only need order-followers if you want to be aggressive.
"the commandment of Peace"
There is no such thing. Peace does only work when people follow it voluntarily, without being commanded to do so. And the explanation is simple: If your followers only follow commandments, then they will also follow the commandment to break peace. This happens over and over again, because following orders replaces conscience.
@Entodude:
"Information is one form of evidence."
No, it's not. Example: When Luke Skywalker crashed with his snowspeeder while defending the rebel base on Hoth, he was nearly stomped to death by an AT-AT of the attacking Empire.
I just provided you information, but it's not evidence because it never happened.
@Aéius Cercle:
Everyone will still be alive, because ISBEs can't die. The question is: What will the environment look like?
