Its quite fascinating and related to gnosis, worth looking into, discusses a lot of themes discussed here

Hi Madhav - I hadn't heard of these interviews before - nice suggestion.

The Neruda interview is fascinating; kind of reminds me of the Lacerta files in way -that we have to rely on the interviewer's word, and quality of information -
(otherwise, no way to verify).

First heard of the ACIO from Dr Salla about 2 years ago:

The Wingmakers Controversy: Time Travel, ACIO & Extraterrestrial Threats

"Fred Burks has been analyzing the ground breaking Wingmakers material since 2000 when he resonated with its powerful transformative message allegedly from humans 750 years in our future . The future humans were associated with a highly secretive NSA entity called the Advanced Contact Intelligence Organization."

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The acio website has been updated with a few sexy pages such as :

"20 & Back Time Travel" : "The Secret Space Program"

"Dark Fleet (Nacht Waffen Regir)" : "Wingmakers and Their Connection with the ACIO"

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This Neruda interview is from 1997 and they were concerned about a future event occurring
in 2011.

Some interesting excerpts :

[Dr Neruda]; “The Greys, and most extraterrestrials for that matter, communicate with humans exclusively through a form of telepathy, which we called 'suggestive telepathy' because to us it seemed that the Greys communicated in a such a way that they were trying to lead a conversation to a particular end. In other words, they always had an agenda, and we were never certain if we were a pawn of their agenda or we arrived at conclusions that were indeed our own.

“I think that’s why Fifteen didn’t trust the Greys. He felt they used communication to manipulate outcomes to their own best interest in favor of shared interests. And because of this lack of trust, Fifteen refused to form any alliance or TTP that was comprehensive or integral to our operations at either the ACIO or the Labyrinth Group.” p15

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[Interviewer]: “But why the sudden interest in the WingMakers’ time capsule? How does it play a role in all of this BST stuff?”

[Dr. Neruda]: “Initially, we didn’t know what the connection was between the Ancient Arrow project and the BST (Blank Slate (defensive-time-travel) Tech) Imperative. You have to understand that the time capsule was a collection of twenty-three chambers literally carved inside of a canyon wall in the middle of nowhere about eighty miles northeast of Chaco Canyon in New Mexico. It is, without a doubt, the most amazing archeological find of all time. (Ed: wonder if related to the Radu Cinamar Romanian Sphynx Hall of Records) If scientists were allowed to examine this site, with all of its artifacts intact, they would be in awe of this incredible find. p19

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[Interviewer]: “Is this like the Prime Directive as it’s portrayed on Star Trek?”

[Dr. Neruda]: “No. It’s more like a parent who wants its children to learn how to fend for themselves so they can become greater contributors to the family.”

Sarah: “But wouldn’t a hostile takeover of earth affect the Federation?”

Dr. Neruda: “Most definitely. But the Federation does not preempt a species’ own responsibility for survival and the perpetuation of its genetics. You see:

At an atomic level our physical bodies are made quite literally from stars.
At a sub-atomic level, our minds are nonphysical repositories of a galactic mind.
At a sub-sub-atomic level, our souls are non-physical repositories of God or the intelligence that pervades the universe. p35

Some deep archetypal-history/creation mythos appears in the Neruda interviews.
especially in the 5th interview with seems to engulf the info presented in
the first four.

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[Interviewer]: “So the God of the Bible is this Anunnaki Lord, called Anu?”

[Dr. Neruda]: “Yes.”

[Interviewer]: “Why are you telling me this all now? It seems like this information
changes some of the previous information you’ve shared.”
... So why did Anu want to be God?”

[Dr. Neruda]: Remember that the original goal (of Anunnaki) was the acquisition of gold.

But when the Atlanteans (Ed: forced into slavery in bodies considered Human 1.0) rejected Anu,
he began to conspire with the Sirians.
It was just before the flood that Anu discovered that the gold he’d mined
was sufficient.

However, the notion of being a God over the Atlanteans was seductive.

The Sirians and Serpents felt that the idea of enslaving infinite beings
in planet ecosystems was their invention. They had something that was totally unique.
They were creator-Gods, and every other race could be ensnared in a similar type of vessel.
(Ed: reminiscent of Archons/demi-urge) p187

[Interviewer]: “You mean enslave other races?”

[Dr. Neruda]: “Yes. You see the earth had a unique quality to its core. This core was of extreme interest to the Anunnaki when they first visited earth. It was this core that created the gravitational field that enabled the planet to become fully physical in such a way that it could support physical life. Of course other conditions needed to be present, too, but it was this core that was the real key.

Working with the Sirians and Serpents, they began to do this same enslavement on other planets.

They replicated the core of earth and engineered a method for implanting this core on other planets.

[Interviewer]: “So I guess the real question is, if you believe this,
what are humans today? Are we simply more of the same? Are we Human 2.0?”

[Dr. Neruda]: “When I said the human uniform (Ed: genetic entity (body)) evolves, it does, but this evolution is on a track, a pre-programmed track. The intent was to have Anu return on a ‘cloud,’ the whole Second Coming was going to be the staged entrance for Anu.

Humanity would evolve in such a way that his reentry into our consciousness would be understood to be a good thing. Humanity’s salvation. We would all be his children, and the glory of god would be upon the earth. That was the plan. From before the time of Jesus, that was the plan. Marduk programmed the entire—”

[Interviewer]: “How long can these beings live?”

[Dr. Neruda]: “Again, the beings like Marduk or Enki or Anu are not based in spacetime. They are infinite beings, meaning they have no end. They don’t have an age. Neither do we.”

[Interviewer]: “I’m trying to wrap my mind around all of this, but I’m finding it
very hard to believe that human beings are simply uniforms for a
programmed existence.

[Dr. Neruda]: “Let me go back to your previous question about what humanity is now.

The functional implants of the human interface are perfectly integrated within the human vessel.
They operate seamlessly. So seamlessly, we do not know that they are not us.
We have no choice in a way. We think our thoughts and emotions are us, that this spacetime is what our thoughts and emotions exist in.

Even the thought of a God, heaven, hell, soul, masters, all of these things, they’re part of the program.

It is integrated in both the dimension of the earth plane and the after-life.
The after-life is part of the deception.”
p188

Ok that last post was interesting. I've been wondering about all the stuff Michael Salla has been saying over the years and whether it's consistent with Farsight. I met him in person a few years ago at Contact in the Desert. I wanted to look him in the eye and get a sense if he was telling the truth. I felt that he was but I also felt like he was missing something. He kept going on and on about a Star Trek future but to me this doesn't quite seem accurate. Star Trek doesn't really talk much about the afterlife and the spiritual essence of what we are beyond technology. This Neruda interview gets at it more.

Like the Lacerta files, and Bashar, The Wingmakers material provides a deep set of claims. I , personally, found the Salla interview, the evidence of censoring, and of course the material itself very compelling. I would be very interested in RV data.