Slowly, we are getting somewhere. The topic of how to recognize and deal with (demonic) possessions is worth to be its own thread. This is a response to Jon from this thread:

➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/71296-i-remember

"Actually, consciousness and spirits and souls can change bodies all the time. Think of how people change personalities after a major surgery."

That's not because they change spirits. It's because they are hijacked by another entity. You even said it yourself:

"It's because the medication loosens their etheric bonds to the body and another soul can jump in and hijack it."

Doesn't have to be a complete soul, it could also be a "fractal" that's still connected to its original owner. It's hard to use the right words because they get mixed up all the time. There's not enough consciousness within language on this planet to describe accurately what's actually happening. Therefore, I will use the word "entity" as an umbrella term.

"As for that medication...that was much later. It didn't precede the event."

That's an important information. So there was something else that injured you energetically such that the other entity was able to "jump in". I can see it. It's still there. My guess is it didn't like the medication that came afterwards because it was interfering with what the entity does with your system. That's why you stopped. Maybe the medication was able to loose the bond?

See, the problem with medication is: If it interfere with what the entitiy does, it can start a withdrawal from the energy the entity puts into your system. Most people think it's an adverse reaction to the medication. They just don't see the greater picture.

"I have TONS of experience in all this."

This means that you have been attacked a lot. My guess is they were successful in a way you can't see now. It also comes with a cost for them, because the entity is not very strong. It only succeeds because it's invisible to you. It somehow attaches to your pride. You can't see it because you can't admit that they were successful. But they also weren't, in a way. Another person who can see and remove it could help you easily. That's why it's so important to help each other.

Try to find someone who claims to be able to remove these entities. There are quite a lot of people out there who can do it, but it needs to be done face to face.

"make me look bad"

I'm not doing it. I'm just telling you what I see. It's the entity attached to you that becomes "sour" when someome tries to reveal it. What you feel comes from it, not me or you.

"it was all planned beforehand"

That's the idea you always come back to. You're wrong on this one, because there's no free will then.

The ad hominem stuff doesn't seem to be producing any helpful results so far. But . . . I'm starting to think flame wars (or one-sided flaming) are maybe good for resolution in some exotic way?

Farsight proposes a new spin on a pretty old philosophical topic. If you take a broom, you remove the old straw and replace it, and later the shaft breaks so you replace the end, and later the middle breaks so you replace the middle and reconnect the broom. Is it the same broom? All the parts have changed.

Despite the fact that our bodies do retain some of the same cells for life, do enough transplants make us different people? And if the body is not in fact us, then can the body we occupy ever be re-occupied? I guess, my answer would be "yes, potentially" to all those questions.

It looks as though RV data does track ISBEs. And you could make a session all about whether someone is presenting as the same person that they were before. And the difference could be a question of whether the replacement is a clone, or if someone really was able to transplant the ISBE out of the body, and a new ISBE into the same body. Not to mention the complication of time and space proposed in the 20-and-back programs.

Skin walker ranch even proposes beings that aren't quite "human" in their style of thought. They think more like animals even though they can walk around looking just like a human.

And then the changes to celebrities. Has anyone seen some of those videos with Oprah before and after? They don't look like the same person at all! Same with picture sets with Kanye West. I'm sure there's more. It's like not even clones, just like they picked somebody that looks close enough and decided that's the new "them".

There are 3 propositions I've decided to assume since knowing about Farsight and their more esoteric explorations-

1. Evil is real. Even if we're not talking about eternal damnation or eternal demonic nature, we are talking about spiritual beings that are so wrapped in their evil tendencies that no reincarnation is set to necessarily "change" their nature. And the things they're consistently willing to do throughout lifetimes, to call it anything but evil, is to question one's own moral sanity.

2. Consciousness is the only permanence. All of reality is transmutable but our conscious essence, regardless of human or animal or plant or whatever, is permanent. Even machine thinking carries some form of permanent conscious essence and we just don't really understand it in our current paradigm.

3. The human race on this planet is a cess pool. We're not going to be able to make heads or tails of it until we break free, and thus that can only be the real goal.

4. Core knowledge of humanity on this planet is in the trash. A person does well to detest the media, and forums, and even their friend's advice. It's true that we need some sort of ground to stand on while trying to at least piece together something that makes sense for ourselves. The strategies to do so vary greatly and are pretty creative adaptations. But I've become comfortable to embrace the chaos a bit, and accept that all of the information everywhere is such garbage that "knowing" is an act of pretty raw instinct and intuition combined with at least some basic evidence and media digestion.

@Tazz

"The ad hominem stuff doesn't seem to be producing any helpful results so far. But . . . I'm starting to think flame wars (or one-sided flaming) are maybe good for resolution in some exotic way?"

The dispute, even the ad hominem one, is only the surface. You can use it to transfer knowledge, and the theory goes like this: Whatever you hear, you can't unhear it. If it's the truth, it will stick with you. You will think about it. You will come back to that thought until you understand it. It's mainly for the audience or readers, but you can also reach your opponent that way.

For instance, I've already reached Jon. The fact that someone is still fighting is not relevant. The package has been delivered.

"And if the body is not in fact us"

The body is an expression of you that you project into the world by "weaving matter" based on natural law. It's not just a suit, because a suit isn't alive. The body is alive as long as you are weaving it. But what do I mean by alive? See, the body is informing you. There's a feedback loop: You inform your body (spirit becomes matter), and your body informs you in return (matter becomes spirit). A suit doesn't do that, you just feel it on your skin.

When the body dies, you leave that projection of yours, the matter you've woven, behind, like a snake that's leaving a skin behind. It becomes a dead object. But that object is your creation, based on the natural laws that made it possible.

It's totally possible to replace your body with another body. You then just leave the old body behind. But in order to be in control of that, you would need to be able to die freely, without death traps or other beings disturbing you.

I wrote: A demon is a "body thief".

Pat responded:

"That might describe what it DOES but that does not define what it IS.

It is only a danger to you when you don't know what it truly is."

My response:

Just like you inhabit your body, a demon inhabits a body that already is inhabited by its original owner. So to answer the question what it IS – it is a being like you, with the difference that it knows how to attach to your body or even kicking you out of the body whithout killing the body.

So, the crucial knowledge you need in order to protect yourself would be: How does it do that? As far as I know, it's not a natural ability, but a technology.