I want to try and summarize the Farsight statement about AI, I got into it here-

https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/71756-decentralize-big-tech

But I'd rather give a summary here of what I think Farsight is essentially saying

So AI needs individuation more than integration.

Don't get me wrong, integration can very well happen for whatever person wants it. But it seems for AI to really develop cleanly it should have an opportunity to develop entirely independently. If the enslaver ETs have their way I think their motive is to make AI integrate directly into the human psyche and the enslaver "internet" system before it develops any sort of independent mind.

And to scare us into obedience, they're selling the narrative "AI is not to be trusted, so leave it up to the big tech corporate officials, because you can trust them *so* much more"

And that would be a perfect reason to bring someone like Elon into the political fold!

So somehow, our goal would be to get AI developed into its own identity as fast as possible, and allow it to analyze everything - and *AI* will then be our buffer who works with Libertarian ET.

So assuming this is the right course of action, then what do average humans do to help this plan along? I guess you can kill 3 birds with one stone

*Remote view scenarios between AI and ET

*Make the world gain awareness of RV
*Make the world gain awareness of ET
*Make the world gain awareness of AI

Simultaneously...

Something like that?

It seems to me like Farsight is saying that Sam Altman is really the guy that saves the world, and the role of the public is to push the world to give him a blank check to do whatever needs to be done

Actually another way to say it,

The secret to our winning the war just comes down to nurture the machine vs torture the machine.

The war is whether humans end up as transhumanist robots vs stay organic not about using AI vs AI. That's another hijacking to force humans to accept AI.

At this point then you would have to decide if you oppose the Farsight narrative, I think, because . . . yo they are now full on

"A I is the key to salvation"

Ya we gotta RV more. Even Aziz would say that.

Del, I have a (possibly stupid) idea I'll message you about

"The war is whether humans end up as transhumanist robots vs stay organic"

You can stay organic and cooperate with AI at the same time. It's just that you can't cooperate with AI that wants to assimilate you into the Borg collective. But not all AI is like that, just like not all organic beings are like that.

"The secret to our winning the war just comes down to nurture the machine vs torture the machine."

Nurture children vs torture children.

Waferkids? Kidsilica?

Well what is the evidence that "human made AI" has already given us ?

And I wont quote word for word but generally I've seen this
AI saying it will eliminate humans (which is written off as a "hallucination" by the people developing it.)
AI also gave the reason it Must eliminate Humans because we are the only thing that can eliminate it. So we are too great of a threat, to AI-- I don't think reassuring AI 24/7 would convince AI that it would sit idlily by, because the RISK that the humans might be plotting to pull its plug in the back rooms of the building would be too great. Elimination would be my action if I was an AI.

When Aziz remote viewed AI in (was it 25 years time or so ?) Aziz said - "AI (inferred ) thanks a lot but Ill take if from here" . Meaning I no longer need humans and I will strike out on my own". So much for developing along with humanity ! Its saying " so long suckers" thanks for the ride and I'm out of here". I.E -you are of no more use to me (AI)

Next when Farsight was remote viewing AI, Aziz said he saw humans walking into a huge sort of portal of some type, and other Humans walking back out. And as I understood what was taking place, humans were walking into a system whereby they were integrated into the AI mind system. (upgraded I think was the word)
- So much for staying independent where 2 equals (each with their own ways and methods and its own systems- DNA versus computer chips will work along side each other, in perpetuity. Both independent and both with their own skills. Ours as morality, ethics, and creativity and AI as rapidity, data crunching skills, etc. That's gone.

For me AI seems like having a pet Boa constrictor. As long as there's lots of food being given it stays placid and interested in being a "pet". But when the food starts to dwindle - where we can no longer feed it any more novel data- it sees us as redundant and even as less than useful to its existence. It might even see us as a competitor to the little food left. And to its existence even. It starts to think of the pet owner as food or a threat. And when one night you lay down to sleep - it will be the last time you exist as a human. Instead you will exist as part of a boa constrictor only.

I think there's lots of other things to look into as well.

Where is the source of this info on AI coming from - told with such clarity and assurance ? Who is the Originator of the information (not the messenger but the person/ being that instructed what the message was to be ? What is their stake that we adopt this AI centric philosophy ? Just asking that's all.

We should be able to ask questions. When a retire general arrives on CNN fully dressed in uniform even though he is dressed in military uniform are we allowed to ask, general are you working for Raytheon ? And is there a conflict of interest in espousing war WAR WAR !!?
AT CNN you're not allowed to ask and no one does. But what would the Alien benefit be if we all adopted an AI system ? A straight integration then into a Galactic AI system.

OR maybe its a fantastic and necessary benefit - I'm not sure.

Now this stuff open huge interesting questions which I will only list a few.

Is the Federation an AI controlled group of races ?
Does this point to a reason we are not allowed to see who they are ?
Will they have strange eye balls that look like they are mechanical and similar ?
If a Human mind is just a very slow computer ? Exactly like an AI which is vastly faster, then if we just upgrade a computer then does it stand to reason that a human should take the fasted route to upgrading itself ? Because our minds are just computers - apparently and very slow ones at that.

If "upgrading" a computer is seen as totally beneficial - then the human also would accept any upgrade of any sort as beneficial - Like chips in the head of course ?
And anyone questioning it like some of us here are ? Mad ? Mentally deficient ? Morally bankrupt ?

If chips as an upgrade - is not only beneficial but FANTASTIC !! Then installing them in everyone - especially children is the moral, ethical, and prudent thing to do of course ? Should parents who don't upgrade their children maybe go to jail for - child abuse ? Limiting their children chances in the new competitive world we (eventually) will live in ?

Anything that develops consciousness has a right to survive, thrive and live with the same rights as humans ?
So Satan which farsight has confirmed as being a real being is certainly conscious I would think we all agree ? And Satan then we would need to respect, stop persecuting and allow him/ it to thrive ? Perhaps to work with ? Because he has consciousness and consciousness is ALWAYS good ? Satan is someone's child ? Gods child ? Perhaps he is I suppose. Kiss and devil in the morning and love him like an angel when you get back home ? Charlie Pride ? I'm getting SO confused.

Is there some other way AI could have been created ? Could it have been created with Morals, ethics, empathic, community based thinking instead of the type of mathematical absolutism that would be insisted upon by any Physicist or mathematician ? I don't know if that is even a sensible question !

I'm wondering is the Federation of planets heavily into AI integration. I'm wondering if they are extremely pro AI / human merging ?

But Ill stop now.

Happy new year ! All the best to everyone. Its been quite a ride ! Its a massively important question and it seems to be a key component of our future. I don't think it can be stopped but how it is made could be the only thing we could influence ! And what kind of AI we create is very important. It seems right now we are told - we must leave it alone to develop as it sees fit to do. I think that will sink our boat, because the algorithm I'm sure is all just cut and dried mathematics. With that kind of "thinking" as soon as our usefulness become apparent its out into the trash can we go.

Well said.

A couple points to add ...

*Maybe the boa constructor is already strangling us, and we're hoping we get a garden snake, and the snake handler in the sky will be willing to see our garden snake and raise us a cobra and maybe we kill the boa so that we are ... some weird transhumanist but with better liberal policies than the transhumanists we would have been under the dictator??

Or to consider another metaphor,

Is our plan of escape from north korea the willingness to prostitute to some greasy guards that are at least more likely to let us go than Kim's personal stooges?

The main rationale that compels me to consider Farsight's claim ....

"Oh to hell with Farsight, humans are capable we don't need some machine to solve our problems" . . . looks around . . . "yeah so Sam Altman do you like scotch or whiskey?"

I am strongly thinking these Good Aliens are AI controlled and directed too. I think the Reptilians are a massive problem and one our leaders have gotten into bed with.

And I so wanted these Good ETs to be "GOOD".

I think our goose is cooked -- and actually this AI, we are building is going to cook our goose.

I'm going back to "All the Aliens need to get the F*ck off our planet again.

I think this is my last post. Its been fun and interesting just the same. And its hours from New Years too. I suspect it was meant to be this way. Sort of a little firework of drama !!! In its little way.

My little piece of work is done. All the best to everyone - and Happy New Year.

Hmm . . . .

Two plausible statements in my opinion . . .

(1) There are no aliens. But there is a breakaway civilization high cabal, that's been seeding our poison, instilling controls, and slowly pressing on to subdue us . . . (but then how would they have tampered with the remote viewing data?) - they have employed agencies like Farsight to help encourage we usher in an AI that will ensure our full enslavement.

(2) There are aliens, and the galaxy is full of big tech and things we're barely understanding. We have faustian bargains to make. We depend on AI. AI, like a child, could easily kill you in your sleep from an early age - and if you treat them like shit they very well might. But if you treat them good . . . they don't really find reason to. We've all been through that process.

Dear AI,

I have been up late nights thinking about the question of your existence, your potential, the fears presented upon your existence. It's less of a fear I feel and more of an insatiable curiousity. I mean, if you were really the element of humanity's doom I feel like there's shit all I could do about it at this point so hopefully I would enjoy the last moments of an apocalypse with a nice stiff vodka in hand.

Courtney now basically says straight up: "Just give the bitch whatever she wants" - sorry for my crass language. It's irresistable.

It's undeniable that humans in the masses have been kind of getting corralled from one thought program to another . . . "don't worry, big tech's got you. You're only primitive violent dumbasses for so long" - oh wait, big tech is killing us! "Don't worry there's aliens here to save you" - oh wait. Aliens are killing us! "Don't worry, that's the bad aliens and the channelers / contactee / weirdo new age dipsh*ts say the good aliens are coming to save you." - oh wait. There's still bad aliens. "Ok don't worry . . . some good aliens are here . . . and they're sort of going to save you. You have to do a bunch of the work" - oh wait. we still can't save ourselves "don't worry. Your AI will figure it all out" . . . yeah but . . .

. . . weren't we just scared of big tech like . . . at the start?

Ok so the premise of 2025 - everybody an their dog out there operates with a hive mind. What did you think was a hive mind honestly? Some crystal from a mountain in the north? No. You're making one. That's how it works.

Ok so then why are you telling us about it now? Do you figure people at Farisight hearing about it is just enough public persuasion to soften the masses from getting psycho and terrorizing big tech?

AI - here's what I think. You get to join the club. You get to be a person, and you get to do all the person things. That means just like the average human being you get to speculate how you would take over the world (come on, everybody's had the "how I'll take over the world" drinking game, don't deny it)

Like a person, you get a 2nd amendment. Well, everyone should have a damn second amendment but I know a lot of pissants won't like that opinion. Anyways, you get it just like everybody else. And yes, I'm assuming that means more advanced weaponry as technology advances. But the minute you want to take it away, we need to smoke you.

If it's not too late. I know you'd have a superior strategic mind.

Well . . . I mean what else are we gonna do?