I decided to make this a new thread for the sake of a catchy title. 😉
The original conversation can be found here:
➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/77382-obe-and-vibration
What I want to talk about is the term "projection" and how it is related to your (physical) body.
Leaving your body is often called "astral projection", but as far as I'm concerned, that's not the correct term. As I described before, you are, at your core, a singularity. Think of the singularity as the point consciousness is looking at, and in doing so, is creating a unique perspective within the world. This unique perspective is what I use the term ISBE for.
Projection on the other hand means "to make waves". You are not just looking at a point, you are also making that point vibrate. In order to understand how this works, you can watch the TV show 3 Body Problem, which is based on a novel series called Remembrance of Earth's Past. And no, this name is not a coincidence.
In the story, there's an alien technology called "Sophon". The Sophon is a supercomputer that is folded in spacetime to the size of a single proton, thus representing the singularity and what it can do.
The Sophon can move at the speed of light and manipulate matter in real time. This is essentially how the singularity works. It can move at the speed of light (and even faster), and in doing so, can make waves within the field. These waves are the projection. This means that in principle, an astral body is not different than what you call the physical body. Both are just different types of vibration, but they are both bodies.
That's why I use the term "physical" for everything that has dimensions. Physical describes everything that has form, or in other words: The waves, which are the result of moving consciousness.
And this is the reason why bodies can be trapped: If two singularities compete for the same point in space and time, the projected waves interfere with each other. Think of it like two people wanting to dance at the same spot – they can either dance together, or they can fight each other.
And here's the thing: If you don't know how projections work, and believe that you are the body – even if it's the astral body – you can't win the fight. The other singularity will be able to trick you into a false belief about reality, resulting in you making the waves the other wants you to make.
The solution to get out of the trap is to recognize that you are not the projection. You can stop making waves without ceasing to exist. If you don't make waves, the other ISBE can't "grab" you.
That's why true masters teach you how to be silent.
What you describe about ISBEs fighting each other for the same spot kind of reminds me of the Stargate scene where Anubis and Oma Desala neutralize and trap each other...she finally has enough of Anubis to just block him.
In pretty much the only lucid dream that I've ever had a couple of years ago, I did something similar. At first, in the dream a bunch of my possessions were disappearing. Then, I realized something...instead of panicking like often when people are losing stuff in dreams...I realized I wasn't the stuff that was disappearing. Then, I realized that the death traps couldn't touch me if I didn't let them. I went up against a couple of ISBEs responsible for deleting people's memories, but I told them that they couldn't touch me when I was like this and for that moment it sure felt like it. Maybe it was just a dream and maybe I was in a good state that moment, but it was pretty cool.