Quote @Just Another Isby:

➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/78604-a-warning-in-a-dream#post-463565

"I think I saw why they can't just fly in and save us. It's even more complicated than rescuing people from an Earth prison. The level of technology available out beyond Earth is quite high; true freedom gives us access but with that must come responsibility.

It's like freeing juveniles from a prison. Even if they should be free, you don't just give juveniles everything before they're ready. Our lack of experience/amnesia is an issue."

So, humans have to be grounded to prevent them blowing up planets accidentally?

It's a valid possibility, but it makes me think: How would the ETs do that without us thinking that they came to enslave us?

If I were the ETs, this is how I would try to handle it: Keep the routing mechanism of the prison planet intact, but deactivate the memory wipe (if possible). Then reroute souls depending on their stage of development. Make different "camps", where people get psychological help and learn slowly what they have missed while living on Earth. This of course includes a camp for the real criminals, who must stay detained because they would harm others if set free.

To be honest, this could already be running, as Farsight claims that the Domain owns the solar system. The result would be a decline in Earth's population, as people who have been healed can choose to go somewhere else. Like an evacuation.

Now here's the thing: If this was already running, would the ETs even tell us?

I’d argue that the whole Farsight narrative has some massive holes in it.

First off, if you actually listen to what they're putting out, we supposedly ended up on this planet after a brutal, bloodthirsty war between different factions. If we take that data point at face value, it completely blows up the idea that these ETs are benevolent.

Plus, we're told this war has been dragging on for millions of years. If the "good guys" have supposedly been looking out for us this whole time, what have they actually achieved? They've been failing for millennia not longer, and now suddenly they're showing up on Farsight giving advice?

The reality is that the matrix carved out here probably can't be broken as long as humanity keeps serving the control system. That aligns with Courtney’s claim that we are bound by a contract with these negative entities, whatever they actually are.

Think about it: if bad ets hijacked the afterlife/death process, the so-called "good ETs" just stood by, let it happen, and took a backseat thats the reality.. There are all sorts of theories as to why bad et want to keep this planet trapped in this state. Maybe they're searching for something. Or maybe running on negative energy for millions of years doesn't actually give the bad guys true power anymore?

Maybe the real game-changer isn't fighting them, but them noticing "flipping the switch" choosing to be something they’ve never been by turning toward the good and dropping the deception? That might be how we actually break free here? Maybe these bad ETs stuck in the darkness can only learn and evolve by experiencing the exact opposite of what they are, finally turning to the light.

Just an experiment to think about: How long have these bad ETs been running this prison planet, and has it actually started becoming boring for them?

Maybe if they stopped running the negative programming, they would get to experience something completely different from anything they have ever known. Clearly, if they only know the bad side, they are missing out on a huge part of learning and existence.

Maybe they are just too far gone to ever explore what they could actually become.

Honestly, I’m still not confident that there are any "good ETs" here to help us at all. Is this just another trickster group pretending to be the good guys and using Farsight to feed us what we want to hear?

They are always telling us to "wake up," but how can we even do that when the so-called good ETs have taken this long just to offer basic advice? On top of that, there is still zero evidence that they can actually do anything to help us break out of this.

@Lighting pulsating:

"we supposedly ended up on this planet after a brutal, bloodthirsty war between different factions. If we take that data point at face value, it completely blows up the idea that these ETs are benevolent."

No, the fact that it's a war doesn't mean that all participants are malevolent. The aggressor is, because the aggressor startet the war. The ones who are defending themselves against aggression could have an aggressive nature as well, but that doesn't have to be the case.

"They've been failing for millennia [or] longer, and now suddenly they're showing up on Farsight giving advice?"

Feels strange, doesn't it?

"The reality is that the matrix carved out here probably can't be broken as long as humanity keeps serving the control system."

I have a clear intuition that it can be broken with brute force, but if the psychology of humans doesn't change, they will recreate the same experience again and again. So, breaking it with brute force alone doesn't help.

"if bad ets hijacked the afterlife/death process, the so-called "good ETs" just stood by, let it happen, and took a backseat thats the reality."

There's another possibility: The good ETs of the present are the bad ETs of the past. They created the trap, learned from experience what a big mistake it was, and now want to rectify it.

"...choosing to be something they’ve never been by turning toward the good and dropping the deception?"

Yes.

"Honestly, I’m still not confident that there are any 'good ETs' here to help us at all."

I am. But I'm not confident that they are the ones Farsight is in contact with. There's too much not adding up, and Courtney just ignores reasonable critique. He is looking more and more like a pawn. Pushing the "AI is objective" narrative is just another sign of that.

My stance is clear: The actual problem is the belief in authority. This is what the bad guys hook into. You need a master – be it humans, ETs, or AI – they are more than happy to be your master.

Not believing in authority anymore deprives them of all the power they have.

I perceived this - Save me...Save me Blah Blah Blah, Help me, Help me, Blah Blah Blah, so very evolved ? or disruptive ? ( tongue in cheek and eyes rolling ) LOL Now lets go and clean up our bedrooms, until we feel grateful for life.

@Lighting pulsating:

"If you can’t remember a secret agreement, then it is completely void of all meaning."

See, this is why I'm talking about collectivists:

➡️ https://www.farsightprime.com/forums/general/78446-what-type-of-isbe-are-you

In the mindset of collectivists, the agreements are made with "a people" as a whole. To them, it doesn't matter whether individuals don't know the contents of the agreements. The individuals are owned by the collective, and therefore are part of the contract, even if it's against their will.

Why is humanity facing that problem? Because most humans are collectivists. Every government works like that: The individual is owned by the collective. We the people. The individual doesn't matter.

So we need to ask: Where does this collectivist mindset come from? If you ask me: The ancient AI that owns the reptilians is organized like a hive mind. From its perspective, individuality doesn't matter. It's like the Borg in Star Trek. The only thing that matters is imposed order, no matter the cost.

I increasingly think both sides in this discussion are underestimating how enormous the actual problem would be.
If this really is a prison planet system, then we are not talking about opening a jail door. We are talking about billions of memory-wiped, deeply immersed ISBEs that have spent lifetimes identifying with bodies, fear, status, trauma, attachment and authority structures. Simply tearing down the reincarnation-routing infrastructure overnight could create absolute chaos. Most humans are not psychologically prepared for radical freedom because almost nobody even remembers what they are outside the avatar.
That’s why I no longer find the “why don’t the good ETs just save us?” argument fully convincing. A sudden collapse of the system might lead to panic, recapture, fragmentation or the immediate recreation of another control hierarchy by humans themselves.
At the same time, something clearly feels different lately. UFO disclosure is entering mainstream media. Ridicule barriers are weakening. Consciousness topics are spreading everywhere. AI is accelerating synthesis at an insane speed. Prison planet ideas that would have been buried ten years ago are now openly discussed by millions. That does not look like a system in perfect informational control anymore.
To me, the most coherent interpretation right now is that the authoritarian side is losing its absolute grip on the narrative layer, while the so-called freewill side still cannot risk a total uncontrolled collapse of the infrastructure. That would explain why everything feels gradual, fragmented and ambiguous instead of openly revolutionary.
And honestly, the deepest issue may not even be reptilians, grays, mantids or governments. The deepest issue is authority itself.
As long as humans psychologically need masters — political, spiritual, technological or extraterrestrial — the prison simply changes management.
That is why sovereignty matters more than saviors